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Conference Call Transcript
MCK McKesson Corporation Conference Call to Discuss its Proposed
Acquisition of US Oncology
Acquisition of US Oncology
Event Date/Time: Nov 01, 2010 / 12:30PM GMT
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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Ana Schrank
McKesson Corporation IR
McKesson Corporation IR
John Hammergren
McKesson Corporation Chairman, President & CEO
McKesson Corporation Chairman, President & CEO
Jeff Campbell
McKesson Corporation EVP, CFO
McKesson Corporation EVP, CFO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Tom Gallucci
Lazard Capital Markets Analyst
Lazard Capital Markets Analyst
Robert Willoughby
Bank of America-Merrill Lynch Analyst
Bank of America-Merrill Lynch Analyst
Larry Marsh
Barclays Capital Analyst
Barclays Capital Analyst
Lisa Gill
JPMorgan Analyst
JPMorgan Analyst
Robert Jones
Goldman Sachs Analyst
Goldman Sachs Analyst
John Ransom
Raymond James Analyst
Raymond James Analyst
Garan Sarafian
Citigroup Analyst
Citigroup Analyst
Steve Valiquette
UBS Analyst
UBS Analyst
Darren Lehrich
Deutsche Bank Analyst
Deutsche Bank Analyst
Henry Chan
PNC Bank Analyst
PNC Bank Analyst
PRESENTATION
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the McKesson Corporation acquisition announcement. All
participants are in a listen-only mode. (Operator Instructions). Todays call its being recorded.
(Operator Instructions). I would now like to introduce Ms. Ana Shrank, Vice President of Investor
Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Melody. Good morning and welcome to a special McKesson conference call to discuss
our acquisition of US Oncology. With me today are John Hammergren, McKessons Chairman and CEO, and
Jeff Campbell, our CFO. John will provide some comments on the acquisition and then well open the
call for your questions.
We plan to limit todays discussion to matters concerning the acquisition. I will remind you that
during the course of this call well make forward-looking statements which may involve risks and
uncertainties regarding the operations and future results of McKesson and our announced transaction
with US Oncology. Please refer to the text of our press release for a discussion of the risks
associated with such forward-looking statements. Thanks, and heres John Hammergren.
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Nov 01, 2010 / 12:30PM GMT, MCK McKesson Corporation Conference Call to Discuss its Proposed Acquisition of US Oncology
Thanks, Ana, and thanks, everyone, for joining us on our call. This morning McKesson announced
our agreement to acquire US Oncology, a leading integrated oncology company for total consideration
of $2.16 billion. We are targeting closing by the end of our third fiscal quarter ending December
31, 2010, subject to customary conditions including all the necessary regulatory clearances.
We are extremely excited about this transaction and the value it will bring to our customers,
manufacturing and payor partners and our shareholders. We have a broad, diverse specialty business
with solutions for a number of complex disease states, a world-class vaccine distribution business
and industry leading risk mitigation programs. This acquisition continues our multi-year focus to
steadily expand our presence in specialty services with a particular focus on oncology.
Since our acquisition of Oncology Therapeutics Network in 2007, we have continued to broaden our
offering in this high-growth area. Growth in specialty pharmaceuticals sales is outpacing other
segments and we expect it to continue to be a key driver of overall pharmaceutical sales growth in
the United States.
One of the largest drivers of this increase is the continuing challenge that cancer represents in
our society. In 2010 alone 1.5 million cases are expected and cancer is now the second leading
cause of death. The statistics are sobering men have a one in two lifetime chance of developing
cancer and women have a one in three lifetime chance of developing cancer. The National Institute
of Health estimates that total cancer costs are $264 billion annually, and of that amount $103
billion is direct medical cost.
In response to this the pharmaceutical industry has a robust pipeline of over 800 new cancer drugs
and new indications for existing cancer drugs in clinical development. This number of drugs is far
greater than any other therapeutic category. As a result of this reality demand for oncology
services is increasing rapidly.
US Oncology supports oncologists by providing one of the largest and most advanced portfolios of
oncology service offerings supporting over 1,000 physicians in 38 states who serve 17% of all
cancer patients in the United States. When we combine US Oncology with McKesson Specialty Care
Solutions oncology customer segment, our presence will grow to nearly 3,000 oncologists.
This broadened scale will enable us to offer our customers industry-leading distribution services,
a comprehensive technology platform, and innovative practice management and clinical support
solutions. We believe the collective capabilities of our combined organizations will help community
oncologists improve the integrated care experience for patients and drive business and clinical
innovation in todays rapidly evolving healthcare landscape.
Before I review US Oncologys business model let me provide the financial aspects of the proposed
transaction. McKesson has agreed to acquire all of the outstanding equity and assume all of the
outstanding debt of US Oncology. Although US Oncology does not have public equity they do have
public debt, and therefore they regularly submit quarterly and annual reports with the SEC.
We will fund the acquisition through a mixture of cash and short-term financing. The transaction is
valued at $2.16 billion including the assumption of approximately $1.6 billion in debt. The
purchase price also includes the acquisition of approximately $150 million to $160 million of
estimated present value in cash tax benefits arising from certain NOLs to be used in the future by
McKesson.
We anticipate that we will prepay or refinance substantially all of US Oncologys debt and we
expect to replace it with permanent financing at a later date. This permanent financing should move
us into our target leverage range of 30% to 40%.
Excluding transaction and integration costs the acquisition is expected to be neutral to McKessons
earnings in our current fiscal year and modestly accretive beginning in McKessons fiscal 2012. We
also expect this acquisition will be additive to both our operating margin and earnings growth rate
in our distribution solutions segment.
US Oncology serves its customers largely through two distinct models which allows oncology
practices to select the business relationship that best suits their needs. The first model is
similar to McKessons Specialty Distributions business and includes a broad range of services
including direct-to-physicians specialty pharmaceutical distribution.
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Pharmaceuticals are, of course, a central component of medical oncology practices and both McKesson
and US Oncology handle the purchasing, distribution and management of oncology pharmaceuticals.
This part of the business will allow us to increase our service offerings within the important
Specialty Distribution segment.
Both organizations also have integrated technology and clinical tools to help with inventory
management, medical records and effective reimbursement. We believe the technology assets of the
two organizations are highly complementary and will ensure our continued ability to deliver the
specialty specific clinical and workflow solutions that our customers need to be successful.
The second model provides practice management services to both oncology practices and integrated
cancer centers. US Oncology does not own the physician practices, but through comprehensive
strategic alliances known as CSAs, US Oncology provides practice management support services to
both medical and radiation oncologists.
In this way US Oncology manages the nonmedical business operations of these affiliated practices.
McKesson already performs many physician back-office functions including the billing and collection
activity for specialty physicians that provide radiology, anesthesia and emergency department
services for hospitals. There are obvious synergies providing not only pharmaceutical but medical
supply management services to the practices where McKesson brings considerable expertise.
We believe that high quality and cost effective healthcare delivery will increasingly depend on
physicians and clinicians making evidence-based treatment decisions in a cost-efficient setting. US
Oncologys significant expertise in establishing and promulgating these standards is a unique
advantage that we believe sets them apart from the rest of the industry.
The CSA practices bring together the active clinical involvement of the physicians and the
back-office scale of US Oncology to deliver high-quality patient care in the community setting. The
CSA model is very comprehensive, but not unlike other models we have developed where we provide the
tools that help clinicians deliver the best care to their patients, it is evidence-based and less
variable from site to site.
The acquisition of US Oncology will fit well with McKessons overall strategy to extend our
presence within our existing lines of business. It will allow us to continue to deliver great value
to and deepen our relationships with our customers through expanded offerings in the emerging
high-growth areas.
During our due diligence review of US Oncology we were impressed with how it has demonstrated
consistent growth driven by innovation in both efficiency and clinical quality with demonstrated
superior patient care outcomes delivered in a convenient and personalized community-based setting.
We were similarly impressed with the caliber of the management team at US Oncology and we are
excited to have them join the McKesson team.
Following the close of the transaction McKessons Specialty Care Solutions business and US Oncology
will be combined under the leadership of Bruce Broussard, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of
US Oncology, who will report directly to Paul Julian. There is clear alignment between US
Oncologys management team and the physicians who have their unwavering focus on the success of
their patients.
We anticipate significant investment will continue in process and clinical innovation that will
help drive our success will exist in this business going into the future.
When I met with some of the US Oncology physicians I was impressed with their focus on best
practices and ensuring that any physician in the CSA network complies with these high standards.
Similarly, McKessons specialty business has focused on supporting the needs of physician customers
through development of innovative technology solutions, clinical tools and best-in-class supply
chain management. McKesson and US Oncology have a shared vision and complementary assets that will
accelerate the ability of the combined entity to deliver value to our customers.
In summary, we believe that there is great alignment between US Oncology and McKesson. We are in
this business today and weve grown both through our acquisition of Oncology Therapeutics Network
and through internally developed and expanding our offering. We understand the oncology business
and we have confidence that we are uniquely qualified to create additional value from these
existing platforms.
This acquisition is consistent with previous transactions where we look for companies that both
deepen our relationship with existing customers and expand the total set of solutions we can offer.
In addition, the acquisition makes great financial sense for our shareholders and will be a source
of earnings growth almost immediately.
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The transaction is also consistent with our portfolio approach to deploying capital. So far this
year we have repurchased $1.5 billion in stock, approved a new $1 billion share repurchase
authorization, increased our dividend and now made this sizable and strategic acquisition.
We have a great track record of deploying capital wisely and you should feel confident that we
intend to continue to improve shareholder value through sound capital deployment. With that Im
going to turn the call over to the operator for your questions. I would ask that you limit your
questions to just one per person so we can allow others to have an opportunity to participate.
Melody?
QUESTION AND ANSWER
(Operator Instructions). Tom Galucci, Lazard Capital Markets.
Good morning, thank you. I was just wondering if youre framing any synergy targets either
near-term or longer-term? And number two, just wondering how you sort of would frame the
reimbursement exposure given its more of a service model in some respects than the pure
distribution side? Thank you.
Thanks, Tom, for those questions. We have begun to frame our synergy analysis and, as we said
in the prepared remarks, we believe it will be pretty neutral if we set aside the acquisition costs
in this fiscal year. Going into fiscal 2012 we believe it will be modestly accretive. As you know,
we usually plan these things in a conservative way and we believe that theres certainly
opportunity for us to continue to perform well with this acquisition.
We did also analyze the reimbursement risk in this business and we believe that the obviously
these guys do a great job of performing for their customers, are already extremely efficient and do
a terrific job of delivering value both in terms of the cost, but as important perhaps, the quality
of the services they provide. And we believe they are already very cost effective from a price
perspective with other models that have evidence of being more expensive.
We also believe that the growth trajectory in this marketplace is quite significant, so there might
be some drag over time on reimbursement changes that people want to make the the combination of
innovation in terms of the pharmaceutical and radiology treatment protocols are being developed as
well as just the sheer growth from a demographic perspective in cancer treatment will be offsetting
positive factors. And in addition, theres a great opportunity for us to attract more people into
this managed network model given that the pressure is quite significant on standalone physicians to
maintain their own oncology practices.
So, clearly we believe reimbursement will continue to be a focus of the operation. But the
opportunity for us to use our sourcing strengths, our Six Sigma efficiency activity, attract new
people into the model and clearly use the existing demographics and innovation to drive growth in
the business.
Robert Willoughby, Bank of America-Merrill Lynch.
Do you happen to have any comments on the DSO profile for the entity? Just off the top of my
head, I havent run through the math as yet. Any comments on the trend there? Then secondarily,
just a reminder it did go private a few years back, I think it was formed by a merger then
ultimately went private. What was the situation surrounding it going private years ago?
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Let me start by talking a little bit about the cash profile of the business. Clearly when you
look at McKesson, overall their DSO and receivables profile wont really have an impact on the
Company overall. We like the cash aspects of this business. In fact, when you look at it on a cash
basis it will, of course, be quite accretive much more so than what youll see on a GAAP basis.
And I might answer your question about maybe DSOs and physicians a little bit more broadly. Were
obviously, in many of our businesses today, serving a lot of oncologists, a lot of other physician
customers and, in fact, have seen the quality of our receivables portfolio across all of those
practices stay pretty solid. John, maybe you want to comment on the first issue?
Yes, Robert, the business was or had been or is currently owned by Welsh, Carson, as well
as some other private equity firms, and I believe theyve done a nice job of continuing to grow and
expand their footprint.
And frankly, theyve also significantly changed the model from what the Company was four or five
years ago, both in terms of amazing technology as one of their key drivers, but I think, perhaps
even more important, aligning with the physicians to create the clinical architecture that has been
able to demonstrate best outcomes and reduce the variability from a care and treatment protocol
perspective.
I think theres some misconception in the marketplace, and it certainly existed with me when I
thought about it four or five years ago, that they actually own the physicians when in fact there
is no ownership. The physicians are managing and owning their own practices and what they do
through US Oncology is provide significant support both in terms of back-office as well as many
other operations.
And they also help them through a significant amount of governance activity create the clinical
standards by which they follow from a treatment protocol perspective. And the business is not
really a franchise model where you would charge a percentage of revenues to be part of the US
Oncology network; its really a shared success around the operating performance of the practices.
And these practices have demonstrated over time their ability to perform in a superior way to
non-US Oncology practices.
So, as I mentioned, I think that theres a great opportunity to not only expand with the
demographics of the disease, but also to expand through attracting more people into this model. And
increasingly in all of our businesses, whether its pharmacy distribution or independent pharmacies
that are owned by individuals, are coming to us saying we want more help, we want you to support us
from a corporate perspective.
We also see many practices on our revenue cycle outsourcing model coming to us saying, we cant
we can no longer deal with the administrative burdens of helping our patients on the financial and
administrative side, can you help us reduce and eliminate the waste and inefficiency that exist
there?
So, this is very similar to the move we see really going on across the industry where people want
to maintain their flexibility and their freedom and their individual ownership of their lives, but
at the same time realize they need the support of a substantial organization to help drive
efficiency. And I think that evolution has been taking place, Robert, quietly as this company has
been private.
Larry Marsh, Barclays.
Thanks and good morning. I think this is a very interesting company for you guys to acquire. I
mean just having covered US Oncology many years ago, I can attest there being a big difference
between then and now, which as you say, John, a big pharma services contribution. So my question is
just really margins and then kind of accretion.
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So, it seems like margins have come down a good bit in the last five years with ESA pressure and
Medicare Part D reimbursement. Is your view, John, that sort of in a newco you would anticipate
margins coming back coming back up under I guess now under Paul Julian direct report, or
should we just think of this as sort of flat margins?
And then I just and then just maybe for Jeff, it seems like if it looks to me like youre
paying nine times trailing EBITDA. So on a cash accretion basis, Im coming up with a $0.35 to
$0.40 accretion number. Maybe walk me down off of that just to help me frame it a little bit
better. Thanks.
Thanks, Larry. The margin structure of this business, albeit has been somewhat invisible to
the Street, has actually improved over the last several years and we believe will continue to
improve as they drive efficiency in their business and help their physician customers drive
efficiency.
The margin structure is accretive to McKessons overall margin structure and perhaps thats what
you heard me refer to and we believe that the trends both in terms of revenue growth and gross
margin accretion and operating income rate or margin accretion, as well as EPS momentum, will all
be additive relative to the growth dynamics of this business.
So, on almost every dimension that we think about in terms of making financially astute
acquisitions, this business fits nicely in every one of those views. And we think that theres room
for us to continue to expand and improve their operating performance.
And, Larry, let me talk a little bit about the accretion and multiple math. I would agree with
your general characterization on trailing EBITDA multiples. We think were acquiring a really good
asset here at a very reasonable price. And I agree with you that that will drive a lot of cash
accretion.
As you convert that into GAAP accretion which is the way well report it and what our comments
refer to in the press release and on this call, we said it will be modestly accretive, which very
conservatively probably means somewhere in the single-digit cents next year.
Now, the final amount of that accretion is going to be heavily influenced by two things we cant
know with certainty right now that really are not operating factors. The first is the rate at which
we finance this transaction. And as John said, we do intend to mostly fund this first with some
short-term financing and then with permanent financing. That will bring us into our target capital
range of 30% to 40% on a gross debt to cap basis and that will, of course, leave us with a very
strong balance sheet.
For now whats built into the modestly accretive comment is a very conservative assumption about
the ultimate cost of doing that financing. Should interest rates stay
where they are today by the
time we get around to doing the financing, youll see a little bit better number.
The other thing we cant know with perfect certainty today is what kind of intangible amortization
number we finally end up with. Weve made what we think is a very reasonable assumption in the
numbers Ive given you where that amortization, which is of course a non-cash charge, would run $70
million to $80 million a year. Should it come in significantly different from that it would, of
course, affect that GAAP accretion as well.
But I think the overall summary I would give you is, as with any transaction, we look at lots of
different financial metrics because we dont think any one gives us the whole answer. We think this
transaction looks really good on all of those metrics, whether youre looking at IRRs or the cash
profile of the business or the multiple were paying or whos getting what share of the synergies
or the cash or GAAP accretion.
JPMorgan, Lisa Gill.
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Thanks very much. And, John, I appreciated all the detail that you gave last week and Im sure
that you were thinking about what was going to happen this week as we went through our discussion.
But with that said, can you maybe just talk about your relationship, if you have any today, with US
Oncology around distribution? And if you dont, is there an opportunity to move all the
distribution relationship to McKesson? And then secondly, are there any other cross-selling
opportunities, for example, on the IT side or the medical surgical side?
Thanks, Lisa. US Oncology has sort of a multi-tiered approach to partnering with their
customers. And it starts with what we would consider a more simple distribution relationship
similar to the way McKessons relationship starts with oncologists. And theres virtually a
complete overlap or synergy between our distribution business and their distribution business from
that perspective.
As they grow and grow with their relationship they bring technology to the customers like we do,
they bring a group purchasing function like we do, a sourcing function like we do. They clearly
bring a technology, inventory management plus an electronic medical record activity to the
customers like we do.
They and then as they continue to expand their relationship they move into these CSA models that
really give them even more impact on those practices and virtually continue to employ all of the
back-office and non-clinical staff in those practices and perform all of the financial transaction
processing activity similar to the way we do it in our revenue cycle outsourcing business.
And thats where theres a divergence between what McKesson does and what US Oncology does relative
to the services provided to the practices. We do no business with US Oncology; they have done their
own distribution function and have sourced their product on a direct basis through their own
distribution network, both to their distribution customers as well as their CSA practices. And that
is a complete synergy with McKesson relative to the way the product moves from a distribution
perspective.
And you asked another question about medical surgical supplies. They do source medical surgical
supplies and they dont do that work through McKesson either. We certainly believe theres synergy
opportunity there for those practices.
So, I think you have synergies on pharmaceuticals, you have synergies on medical surgical, both in
sourcing, GPO functions as well as logistics and as technology synergies. And then clearly the
clinical protocol and practice management activity of CSA is completely additive and we hope well
begin to be able to make those services also available to the McKesson oncology customers over time
as they have a desire to participate.
Robert Jones, Goldman Sachs.
Thanks for taking the question. Just a follow-up I know we werent too far into the numbers
on the accretion and you just mentioned obviously the distribution channel being one area. Could
you maybe just talk big buckets of where we should be thinking about the synergies coming from?
And then the follow-up question I would have is just looking at the US Oncology filing, it looks
like theyre affiliated through these comprehensive strategic alliances with a little over 1,300
physicians. I was just wondering if you could give us some thoughts around how those relationships
are structured and if theres any risk with this deal around those 1,300 physicians? Thanks.
Clearly we believe that the relationships they have with their customers are quite
significant. So let me start there, that the relationships are usually multi-year or multi-decade
and theyve established a very close working relationship with their customers and their
partnership is quite significant.
I believe that physicians really look at US Oncology as their back-office and practice management
technology and distribution and logistics company. And I think that the partnership is quite solid
and quite significant and we really dont see much risk of customer of US Oncology
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customer
attrition, or frankly McKesson customer attrition through this, because there is so much added
value that we both can bring to our customers.
On the synergy side, we really see this business as a strategic fit for McKesson and one where we
are gaining additional capability to add value to our current customer relationships and expand our
business from a strategic perspective. There are synergies that we plan to avail ourselves of, but
this is not really a cost and synergy driven deal as much as it is a strategic deal that
fortunately is financially well done enough that we dont have to harvest tremendous cost synergies
to make it be financially astute for us.
John Ransom, Raymond James.
Good morning, thanks for taking the question. Just looking at US Oncologys EBITDA, theyre
running about $240 million now, they were running about $250 million three years ago. It looks like
theyve been kind of stuck in this range. What do you think is going to happen over the succeeding
three or four years that will cause this number to grow whereas historically it looks like its
pretty flat?
Well, we strongly believe, John, that this will be additive to both our margin rates as well
as our earnings growth rates and the sources of that are several fold. One is that while the
synergies are not the key driver of the deal, there will be synergies that unfold over the next few
years.
More importantly though, when you look at the fundamental business model, we think that the US
Oncology set of services is really in the right spot for the healthcare reimbursement environment
going forward. We think that will allow them to add doctors to the practices. We think the
practices represent really the most efficient way to get best practice care for cancer delivered
and we think that will be realized by the payors. And so, we see growth prospects that were
actually quite excited about.
Another comment Id make, when you look at the comparison you just made is you did have a highly
unusual event in a time period with ESAs that the Company and the industry went through. And thats
part of what drove that history that you just described. But as we look forward and we look at this
business model, we are very upbeat about the growth prospects.
Hey, Jeff, just as a follow-on to that. I remember this company made most of its money from
radiation oncology when the drug passed through, margin got legislated away. Is that how you look
at it now? Is most of the profit flow coming from the radiation oncology versus the medical
oncology side right now?
No, and I think thats, John, probably a good question and a good reminder. This company has
been in existence for some time, as you and others have pointed out. And I think youve seen their
business model and their practice model evolve significantly over the last 10 years as they have, I
think, gotten better at understanding where are the true ways that they can create value for the
physicians and for the patients and for the payors while still delivering great care.
When you look today at these sources of value, its really coming from thoughtfully using the scale
of the business and thoughtfully using a real focus on best practice. And the economics relative to
other oncology practices are driven by a diversity of factors that stem mostly from those two
themes. And so while historically their economics may have come out of more narrow parts of the
business thats not what we see today.
I guess Id just conclude by saying we, as John said in his remarks, this is a company that we have
followed and known a long time. Its a company that has evolved a lot. And so, I think we all
should understand where the model is today and be a little careful about thinking about where the
model may have been five or 10 years ago.
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(Operator Instructions). Garan Sarafian, Citi.
Good morning. I guess the first question follows the remark that you just made regarding
knowing US Oncology for quite some time. So with acquisitions its always interesting to hear about
timing. So, just wondering if you can just elaborate on why now? What brought the two parties to
the table to get a deal done? Especially when specialties is a growing segment, appealing segment.
So what happened that its closing now?
And then second, in the prepared remarks I thought I heard a comment about US Oncology serving 17%
of physicians. But I thought that their market share was more like 9%. So if you could just
elaborate on market share and what the combined entity market share will be after the deal closes.
Thank you.
Well, I dont know that we talk specifically about market share as much as we talk about the
number of cancer patients served, and that was really what the 17% reference was about and thats
US Oncologys number in terms of their share of total patients treated.
And relative to why now these things all acquisitions take their own cadence and their own
timing and things have to be aligned. I will say as a comment outside of just this transaction in a
broader way, we are seeing a lot of privately held companies and private equity backed companies,
companies who were purchased in a period of some time ago coming to the market now.
And perhaps its related to the timing of these older funds for those that are financed in a
private equity kind of a way. And where companies are privately owned entirely by individuals, we
see those coming to the market place now and perhaps thats being driven by a view on future tax
policy.
So, I think that there is some momentum in the marketplace as we come to the end of this year where
people are reapportioning their portfolios or perhaps availing themselves of opportunities that
they think are going to change from a financial perspective looking forward.
So, I think as you might guess, bold investments with private equity firms have to be turned or
have to be harvested at some point. And I think this is the right time for this particular entity.
I dont believe the sellers were oblivious to the opportunities of continued growth here and I
think that the management team is very bullish about where this Company is headed on both sides of
the transaction.
(Operator Instructions). Steve Valiquette, UPS.
Looks like it could be a pretty good deal. My question I think is somewhat similar to a few
other ones where we had the US Oncology EBITDA growing pretty nicely for a couple of years and then
it was flat in the first quarter and down about 10% in the second quarter. And they were citing
just overall physician offices as softness. Yet profit growth could resume given some of the
generics coming down the pike, obviously Gemzar and Taxotere.
So I guess my question is, are you assuming some organic growth in EBITDA for US Oncology in the
McKesson fiscal 2012 in your accretion, or is it driven more by synergies? Im just trying to get a
little more color on that. Thanks.
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Yes, I think our view is that this is a growth business and its growth rates should be
additive to the growth rates of McKesson overall and thats one of the reasons were attracted to
this business. I mean, there are external estimates that oncology treatment in America is going to
grow in the high single if not the low double digit kind of rate.
And clearly, because US Oncology is focused on cancer care in a broad context, as Jeff mentioned,
whether its radiologic services or chemo services, these local community-based practices are
well-positioned to handle this growth as we look forward.
I dont think that economic cycles necessarily affect US Oncology business prospects as much as it
might other types of care. If someone is diagnosed as having cancer, I doubt that one of their
points of calculus is the economic cycle theyre in as to whether or not theyll get treatment.
So although there may be some drag related to the economy, we believe that the bolus of demographic
growth here and the increasing frequency with which cancer has represented itself in our population
both are things that will help propel the growth.
So, to answer the question, we believe that organically this business will grow at a rate thats
equal to or greater than McKessons overall growth rate. And thats without taking additional
market share with community-based practices that have an interest in affiliating with US Oncology.
So Operator, unless there are any additional questions .
We do have one in the queue.
Okay.
Darren Lehrich, Deutsche Bank.
Thanks for taking my question. I guess Id be curious just to get your thoughts on how you see
McKessons strategy evolving in terms of physician practice management and physician management
support services. Just broadly I think you mentioned that you have some operations there with
hospital-based practices, but curious just to get the strategy view longer term?
Well, thanks for the question. Our strategy with all of our customers is to find a way to add
incremental value beyond just the distribution services that we might have started with 177 years
ago. So as we continue to evolve in all of our businesses the idea is to add more value to those
partnerships. And one way to do that is to take on that administrative burden that exists in
healthcare today in a more significant way and then share in the success of accomplishing those
savings.
And so, as you mentioned, we do this already with physician practices in this country that are
primarily hospital-based where the physicians own their own practices and we take on their
back-office operations. US Oncology is very similar in its model for community-based oncology
practices and clearly we do it in pharmacy and other settings of care as well.
So I think it fits very nicely with our overall strategy of continuing to grow our service
offering, to have a menu of choices that our customers can choose from of just world-class
distribution all the way through the cycle of helping to manage the complete affairs of the
practice. I guess where we would draw a very bright white line and a distinction of physician
practice management companies, if you use that term in a loser context, is ownership.
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We do not plan to ever own providers. We think that providers that are interested in managing their
own affairs from an entrepreneur perspective are great partners of ours going forward because we
can bring expertise that they couldnt otherwise get and we can bring scale that they otherwise
couldnt get. But we have no interest in sort of aggregating physicians or hospitals or any other
set of providers in an ownership way here in the United States. So, were excited with this model
and we think it continues to reinforce what weve been doing and where were likely headed.
Henry Chan, PNC Bank.
Good morning and thank you for taking the question. You mentioned the acquisition will be
funded by cash and short-term financing. Could you provide additional color as to how much cash you
plan to use? And as a follow-up, what forms of short-term financing will also be used in this case?
So, we do intend and have put in place a bridge to help fund the acquisition while were
sitting on a lot of cash at the moment. We did that just because theres a little uncertainty about
the exact timing of the close and our target closing will occur right during what for us annually
is sort of the low point of our cash cycle, so just for conservatism we put that bridge in place.
As I said, we do intend to permanently finance the transaction though, probably with about $1.7
billion of debt. So one way to think about it is and youll add $1.7 billion of debt to our
existing debt levels, assume the other $400 million or so is funded with cash off the balance
sheet. When you do that math youll see that it will leave us with that gross debt to cap in the
30% to 40% range or long-held target and it will also leave us with significant cash and strength
remaining in the capital structure.
So, this by no way taps out our ability to deploy capital. And you should expect to see us over
time continue with our portfolio approach to capital deployment and use that strength in a mixture
of continued acquisitions and continued share repurchase.
Great, thank you, Operator, and I want to thank also all of you on the call for your time
today. Were excited about our acquisition of US Oncology which advances our strategy and
strengthens our position in the rapidly growing specialty marketplace. Thanks, and goodbye.
Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude todays conference. We thank you for your
participation. Have a great day.
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