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EXHIBIT 99.2
MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION SECTION
Operator: Good day and welcome to the IDEX Fourth Quarter 2009 Earnings Conference Call. Todays
call is being recorded.
For opening remarks and introductions, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Heath Mitts.
Please go ahead, sir.
Heath A. Mitts, Vice President, Corporate Finance
Thank you, Michael. Good morning and thank you for joining us for a discussion of the IDEX fourth
quarter and full year 2009 financial results. Yesterday we issued a press release outlining our
companys financial and operating performance for the three and 12-month period ending December 31,
2009. The press release along with the presentation slides to be used during todays webcast be
accessed on our company website at www.idexcorp.com.
Joining me today from IDEX management are Larry Kingsley, Chairman and CEO and Dom Romeo, Vice
President and Chief Financial Officer.
The format for our call today is as follows. We will begin with an update on our overall
performance for the quarter and full year and then provide detail on our four business segments. We
will then wrap up with the outlook for 2010. Following our prepared remarks, well then open the
call for your questions. If you should need to exit the call for any reason, you may access a
complete replay beginning approximately two hours after the call concludes by dialing the toll free
number 888-203-1112 and entering conference ID 7923468 or simply log on to our company homepage for
the webcast replay.
As we begin, a brief reminder. This call may contain certain forward-looking statements that are
subject to the Safe Harbor language in todays press release and in IDEXs fillings with the
Securities and Exchange Commission.
With that, Ill turn this call over to our Chairman and CEO, Larry Kingsley. Larry?
Larry D. Kingsley, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Thanks, Heath. Good morning, everyone. Before we discuss the specific results, Im going to walk
through some comments as to what were seeing in the environment that we serve and my comments
throughout our throughout the prepared remarks here relative to the fourth quarter obviously but
also indicative of what 2010 looks like.
Most of our end markets have stabilized and some are beginning to grow again. The emergence of
growth that were seeing is stronger in some country markets and particularly in the developing
nations. The global infrastructure investment in Asia and the Middle East is now providing
opportunities for us to expand in the energy, water businesses and its a broad base of projects
that we expect to continue through the year. Our Health & Science segment is growing as a result of
investment into platforms that enable research and new product development. We here as well
anticipate sustained 2010 Health & Science organic growth.
With the just a couple of isolated exceptions, we expect a continued a broader base return to
growth in the first half of this year and were hopeful for ongoing improvements in the second half
of the year. Throughout the downturn we remained committed to our commercial and operational
excellence efforts. We continue to focus on better serving our customers and we believe that were
taking share. Theres really no lagging restructuring effects that hinder our ability to execute
essentially out of the shoe right now as we are in 2010. Overall, our fourth quarter results were
quite a bit stronger than our expectations. Our operating metrics reflect strong margin performance
and continued working capital improvement and weve got good line of sight to solid operational
execution this year.
Our balance sheet is strong and we will leverage that capability to acquire. So, were pretty
encouraged by the strong Q4 and we are now beginning to see, as I said, a little bit broader base
of growth, certainly the leading performance coming from the energy and water businesses and pretty
well across the Health & Science segment.
So Im going to jump into the results. Im on the slide titled, Q4 and the full year 2009 financial
performance. Its slide four.
For the quarter, orders were up 4%, flat organically and sales were down 3%, down 7% organically,
and they were up 6% sequentially from the third quarter. Fourth quarter adjusted operating margin
of 16.4% was up 220 basis points from the comparable Q4 of 08 and sequentially, operating margin
was up 120 basis points versus Q3. The stronger profitability is a result of our restructuring
efforts plus positive segment mix in the quarter but the improvements from the operating leverage
was across the board, essentially all the businesses.
Q4 adjusted EPS at $0.43 was up 13% versus the comparable EPS in 08. For the full year, orders
were down 10%, sales were down 11, down 14% organically. Full year adjusted operating margin at 15%
was down 210 basis points from 08. Full year adjusted EPS at $1.53 was down 20% compared to 08.
For 09, free cash flow was $190 million, thats over 165% of income, down just 4% from 08. So,
all in all, a very respectable year in light of the environment and most importantly, we realized a
strong exit.
So to jump further into it, into the segments, in Fluid & Metering, orders were up 2% in the
quarter, thats down 2% organically. Sales decreased 5% and were down 9% on an organic basis.
Adjusted operating margin of 17.9% was up 160 basis points from Q4 of 08.
As we expected, we saw the sequential improvement in the energy markets during the fourth quarter
and as I said earlier, the infrastructure investment is continuing to grow and were seeing good
global demand for our newer products. Large capital projects in the power generation markets and
the expanding focus of the oil companies in the midstream fuel management applications are also
creating great opportunities and we expect these trends to continue through the year.
We experienced modest sequential improvement in our water markets during the fourth quarter driven
primarily by domestic municipal water and wastewater treatment projects. While the overall order
rates are strong, we did anticipate the growth and we expect some municipal budgets, though well
remain constrained. Some of our current growth is tied to new water product offerings. Theyve
gained quick traction and are generating very strong interest. We introduced our new Enigma sonic
neural network of sensors that is enabling a better pinpointing of water loss. We also introduced
another family of products that are explosion proof rated which opens up a number of adjacent water
infrastructure applications.
In the broader set of process industries that we serve in this segment, project activity is
increasing, especially in Asia. Some of that growth is the direct result of enhanced safety and
environmental standards. For the more developed regions of the world, we expect the recovery will
be modest. We expect that to be the case in Europe and the U.S. processing industries will be
likely a flat to slower growth story for 2010. In summary, for the segment, energy and water are
growing and were cautiously optimistic about what we see out of the rest of the segment, certainly
though its improved over our perspective three months ago.
In the Health & Science segment, total orders were up 10% for the quarter, and they were up 7%
organically. Sales were up 3% in total and up 1% organically. Operating margin of 22.2% was up 420
basis points compared to the prior year, driven by volume, but the cost reductions and mix also
contributed to the strong improvement in the quarter. As expected in the fourth quarter, we saw a
return to year-over-year growth in the core HST business. And you know that business serves the
analytical instrumentation, the life science markets and accounts for about 60% of the segment. The
end user budgets for instrumentation appear to be committed and our OEM customers expect to drive
growth through innovation, much of which we are enabling.
Our expanding capabilities continue to drive growth through instrument content as well; that is,
the value per platform that we participate on. Beyond the core of this segment, weve been
revitalizing the broader HST product line. Weve introduced a new dry operated vacuum system in the
dental space and new products which will enhance ventilator equipment application for cleaner and
quieter air and at the same time, were simplifying the equipment operation and maintenance. And
while these are global products, theyre particularly targeted for the developing regions of the
world.
The more industrial exposed portion of HST is also performing well. The team has driven just
outstanding operational improvement and is well positioned to take share. We anticipate this will
be the case through the course of this year. So overall, very well positioned in the market we
serve and we anticipate respectable organic growth and great margins in 2010.
In Dispensing Im on slide seven total orders in the quarter were down 2%. Organically, they
were down 9. Sales decreased 10%, and were down 17% organically. Operating margin was 12.3% for the
quarter which was up significantly from the prior year as a result of the restructuring initiatives
that we discussed and we have executed over the last 15 months. The market conditions for
Dispensing we expect will remain soft for the year. Both the European and U.S. retail channels are
replacing equipment as necessary but not investing to automate, as they had been, nor to take
advantage of new technology. And unless the customer tendency changes in the short-term, we expect
that Dispensing will be down year-on-year. The organic decline driven by a lack of committed large
DIY programs.
Obviously given the margin performance as achieved in the fourth quarter, weve tremendously
reduced our cost structure which will enable us to weather the current environment and actually
quite well. This segment will be profitable, will be the strong cash generator. So in the short
term, and the short term here means the full year of 2010, we anticipate that revenue growth will
be fully negative.
And in Fire & Safety, for the quarter total orders were up 1%. Organically theyre down 3. Sales
were down 4%, organically down 8%. Operating margin at 25.5% was up 100 basis points compared to
last year, primarily due to the cost reduction in the segment but also favorable mix within the
segment. Global activity versus domestic market demand continues to drive strong, good growth
opportunities and especially in the rescue equipment area.
So moving forward, emerging country markets will definitely be the best growth opportunities. As
you remember, we dedicated a facility in China for this business. The China rescue market is
expected to grow significantly over the next several years. And we will leverage our in-country
capability as well as our other rescue brands to address those expanding needs. And as anticipated,
the fire suppression order activity in North America continues to be impacted by municipal budget
constraints. And we expect that this trend will continue in 2010.
Our Band-It business within this segment is performing well, both as a result of rebounding markets
but also new product activity. Band-It should see at least half of their growth come from products
introduced during the past two years.
So in total for the segment, we expect organic growth to be flat to down slightly in 2010 with
international growth offset by domestic decline. And among the businesses, Band-It and rescue will
be up while fire will be down, and profitability and cash flow will be excellent.
Okay. Im going to move on to our guidance. Im on slide nine. We expect Q1 EPS to be in the 40 to
$0.42 range. Q1 organic revenue growth is projected to be up two to 3% and roughly flat
sequentially with Q4 09. FX at current rates will have a positive year-over-year impact on Q1
sales of approximately 3%. For the full year 2010, our EPS range is $1.63 to a $1.73, driven by
expected organic revenue growth of between two to 4%. We expect FMT and HSP to achieve solid
mid-single digit organic sales growth, and we expect the Fire & Safety equipment segment will be
flat to down slightly due to the domestic pressure discussed. For Dispensing, we expect organic
sales to be down as 2009 it included a one-time non-recurring replenishment order, and there we
dont see, as we said, that those spending levels in retail will recover in 2010.
Overall, for the company, any growth above the high end of our range will be dependent on better
economic recovery in the back half of 2010. Operating margins will be in the 16% range; thats
roughly a 100 basis point improvement over the 09 full year. Our flow through on the incremental
organic revenue is 45% and for the full year we expect FX at current rates will have about a one
point impact, positive that is, to sales. Other modeling items; the 2010 tax rate is anticipated to
be 33%. Full year CapEx will be 27 to $30 million, and we will continue to convert very well with
cash, well in excess of 100% net income. So, notes, our earnings projections exclude our estimate
for any additional restructuring cost, which could be three to $0.04 in 2010 as we anticipate
executing a couple of remaining footprint initiatives.
So with that, were going to open the line to questions. Operator?
QUESTION AND ANSWER SECTION
Operator: [Operator Instructions]. And we will take our first question from Mike Schneider with Robert W. Baird.
Operator: [Operator Instructions]. And we will take our first question from Mike Schneider with Robert W. Baird.
<Q Mike Schneider>: Good morning, guys.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Hi, Mike.
<Q Mike Schneider>: Maybe first we can start on Dispensing. Its quite incredible the
turnaround on margins that occurred on initially down sequential volumes. Can you just tell us
sequentially where the savings came from given that most of the restructuring actions I think were
complete already. And then what you believe the new breakeven rate is for this business? Because I
think historically weve talked about 30 million being the breakeven, but were clearly well below
that now.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Mike, the largest footprint action, as you remember, began back in the
later part of 08 into the early part of 09, but we did continue to take restructuring actions
through the course of 09, right through to the middle part of the fourth quarter. So you are
seeing the continued impact of the costs as they exit the segment. The bottom line is that, if you
look at the quarter, youre right. That breakeven number is less than what weve talked about it
historically but probably indicative of kind of where it is at this point. Theres not another set
of large initiatives that are going to impact margin in the segment.
Good news is obviously that when that business comes back, it will be at a fantastic cost basis.
And were in a still in a great global position from an operating structure standpoint to go
after all the parts of the world that we think are going to grow.
<Q Mike Schneider>: So are there savings that carry over in the Q1 that would explain some
of the strong Q1 guidance for Dispensing?
<A Larry Kingsley>: No.
<Q Mike Schneider>: No?
<A Larry Kingsley>: No.
<Q Mike Schneider>: Okay. And then just a question on the guidance. If you look at
historically, your Q1 results I guess would have been down sequentially more than what youve got
embedded in the guidance this time. Is there any unusual or out-sized projects that ship in Q1? Any
expense savings or something that benefit Q1, that explain the strong guidance?
<A Larry Kingsley>: No, Mike. The seasonality year-to-year does vary a bit depending on
whats going on. And obviously, were required to over the years, so that impacts seasonality to
some degree. But there is nothing of what you described impacting Q1 in a positive sense. Its
really a good thing. Its pretty broad-based, what were seeing on the order book and what we
expect to flow through into the quarter.
<Q Mike Schneider>: Okay. And the final question just on Liquid Controls and some of the
energy exposure within Fluid. You mentioned the strong global orders. Is that where most of the
growth and you mentioned sequentially better is that where most of the growth is coming
overseas? And could you give us a sense of what type of projects that these are? Are they custody
transfer or are these new physical plant construction? Just any insights as to where the strength
is coming from?
<A Larry Kingsley>: Yeah, Ill give you some insight. I dont want to go into too much
detail for market competitive reasons. But the U.S. market is actually holding fairly firm. The
best growth is coming out of the developing nations. I would characterize them as both custody
transfer but also infrastructure applications. So, its where the greater world of weights and
measures applies, where they care about inventory management and controls, but its a little bit
further upstream in some of the cases than what we have historically participated.
<Q Mike Schneider>: And by developing markets, is the Middle East a key area or is it
broader than that?
<A Larry Kingsley>: It is broader than that. The Middle East is part of that, a big chunk
of it, but there are some very good opportunities coming out of Asia as well.
<Q Mike Schneider>: Okay. Thank you.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Sure, Mike.
Operator: And well take our next question from Walter Liptak of Barrington Research.
<Q Walter Liptak>: Hi, thanks. Good morning, guys.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Good morning, Walt.
<Q Walter Liptak>: I wonder if, kind of along the lines of some of the previous questions,
you put an operating margin out for the full year. I wonder if we can get your range that you are
assuming in the first quarter guidance.
<A Larry Kingsley>: No, we typically dont provide that, Walt. I think, if you look at the
full year 16% number thats obviously, thats going to be pretty close to what well achieve
assuming the kind of organic growth that weve assumed in the range as well.
<Q Walter Liptak>: Okay. Yeah, fair enough. In the Fire & Safety division, you mentioned
North American fire suppression being weak. Is that the fire truck pumps that are weak or is it
products across the board?
<A Larry Kingsley>: Its fire truck pumps.
<Q Walter Liptak>: Okay.
<A Larry Kingsley>: We would tell you that, first, I mean, if you look at Fire and Rescue
in total, international growth is stronger than domestic growth in our assumptions, but Rescue as a
business stronger than Fire for 2010. And most of the content for Fire is on board trucks. So -
<Q Walter Liptak>: Okay. And I guess my question is, obviously, this is now the biggest
piece of the business but how worried should we be about it? I know that youve had a competitor
that came out with a competing pump technology. Are there market share issues or is it related to
[inaudible] municipal?
<A Larry Kingsley>: Yeah, sure. Theres nothing, nothing at all that were concerned about
in that regard. As a matter of fact, we would say that our OEM customers are faring quite well with
the industry data suggesting that they are actually doing very, very well from a share perspective.
So its really that we just expect muni budgets to be constrained. And most of the industry is
talking to pretty well the same set of numbers that were expecting. Theres not a huge share gain
or loss assumption in our onboard truck 2010 numbers in total, but certainly not concerned about
share loss.
<Q Walter Liptak>: Okay, good. And if I could just ask the last one and switch over to
Dispensing Equipment? The outlook being what it is, is there do these products wear out? Do
maintenance costs go up? Youre working with paints, they gum up. They is there an age of the
machine fleet out there that you could look at or increased maintenance costs that will cause
pent-up demand at some point?
<A Larry Kingsley>: The answer is, yes. Short answer is, yes. They do wear out. And
actually, the more environmentally safe paint chemistries actually force wear-out faster in most
cases than the older chemistry. Its kind of counterintuitive, but particularly around gumming up
and drying issues, as you actually point out. The reality is that theres always a balance which is
driven by the need to replace versus how much capital they are going to outlay in any given year
for program activity based on what they think their reality for revenue is. Its pretty easy, as
weve talked before about, its a pretty easy return on investment calc. And so, I do think that
once the market stabilizes in the residential and commercial construction world, well see a pretty
quick return to this as a product category that theyre going to invest aggressively in. I just
dont, frankly, think its going to be 2010.
<Q Walter Liptak>: Okay. Is there a significant percentage of sales with aftermarket parts
or service?
<A Larry Kingsley>: There tends to be an aftermarket element which is more around
retrofitting equipment that they decide they dont want to completely replace. And there is a
little bit of that going on right now, too, where they can make decisions, in some cases, to
upgrade and retrofit versus completely replace. That doesnt tend to extend the life of the machine
nor give the user all the features that new equipment can, but it is kind of a Band-Aid that they
can apply.
<Q Walter Liptak>: Okay, got it. All right. Thank you.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Youre welcome.
Operator: And we will take our next question from Scott Graham of Ladenburg Thalmann.
<Q Scott Graham>: Hey, guys. Good morning.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Hi, Scott.
<Q Scott Graham>: Larry, do you expect to get back up to your $20 million productivity
number in 2010?
<A Larry Kingsley>: We dont have as large of a productivity number assumed in 2010.
Basically, weve got obviously a lot of heads out in 09, and while we dont typically hard account
for the productivity numbers with excepting the rest of the head count actions. When you take
fairly strong actions like we did, on the following-year basis, you probably dont assume that
youre going to get as much productivity pickup just because you got it, frankly, through some
other footprint-associated actions.
On the material cost side, we will get a nice net material cost benefit. But again, in 2010, were
not assuming as large of a benefit. I think were pretty well protected from that perspective, from
a planning perspective, because we have taken a reasonably conservative view given the uncertainty
in the environment around us.
<Q Scott Graham>: Okay. On the stimulus, in particular, of course the Water and the
Healthcare businesses, are you seeing anything booked in your order book as of today?
<A Larry Kingsley>: Yeah, were seeing little pieces, in both Water and we expect that a
little bit of the revenue out of Health & Science is coming out of NIH associated spending, which
is stimulus based. Outside of the U.S., I would say the same. There are some Asian country stimulus
elements that are certainly supporting growth, but its not big and very little in Europe.
We do anticipate through the course of the year that in the U.K., there will be some sales
associated with water infrastructure spend that is stimulus-associated, as an example. So, its not
big. By any means, its not big, but there is perhaps a little bit of a boost that were currently
seeing associated with those areas.
<Q Scott Graham>: Okay. Thanks. Last question is this, and this is more of a maintenance.
You went through, Larry and I was writing feverishly, so Im sorry to ask you to repeat this,
but each of the four segments, could you talk about or just repeat what you said you thought kind
of the core growth looked like for 2010 in full, each of the core segments?
<A Larry Kingsley>: I didnt really talk specifically about core growth by segment. What I
said qualitatively was that, in Fluids & Metering, we expect energy and water will lead the segment
in terms of growth. Were already seeing that. We said that Health & Science across the segment
will experience good core growth. In the summary comments, we talked about solid single-digit
organic growth assumptions for both Fluid & Metering and Health & Science, offset by flat to
slightly down performance for Fire & Safety and negative growth assumption for Dispensing. But we
didnt quantify it beyond that, Scott.
<Q Scott Graham>: All right. I actually did come up with one more question if you dont
mind? You had very nice improvement this quarter in the non-analytical instrumentation business of
Health & Science, and you talked about revitalizing the products. I think thats what you were
referring to. Could you go into beyond the products, that market, I think your position to gain
share why would that be?
<A Larry Kingsley>: There are a number of reasons. One, we have done a super job, as I did
say, of revitalizing the product line over the last couple of years. But right through the
recession, we continued to invest in the product line. And if you remember and Im sure you do
where that business historically had gone after some one-off OEM applications that tended to be
home use, lower cost, pretty far from non-core kinds of product applications, those things tended
to be hit and miss versus focusing on things that were much closer to our core competence. And what
weve introduced over the last 18 months or so are products that are going to have some very nice
multi-customer applications. They are going to be global products.
Were seeing a nice start out of our dental office vacuum systems, as I mentioned in the prepared
remarks. And weve got some ventilator products that are really air compressor ventilator
applications different from anything that weve talked historically about with home use
ventilators. These are in health clinic products or hospital-applied products and they, again, are
targeted for developing regions. So I think that weve done a much better job on the front end of
the business understanding what will be nice, sustainable technology, differentiated product. Weve
got IP wrapped around most of this.
The other aspect of whats gone on, though, is, as I said, more generally but certainly in this
business, too, we got after cost actions very early, very quickly. We were able to exit very
nicely. I think some of our competition has been left kind of flat-footed, frankly, both North
American and European. And its allowed us to already begin to take some nice share. So I think
were in a good position, frankly, on just a pure competitive basis, and the team has done a super
job on the productivity side. The costs that weve taken out of our infrastructure and even on the
variable cost side with inclusive of materials allowed us to get to a very competitive
position with that business. So I feel I frankly feel pretty good about what weve historically
called the non-core portion of HST in terms of how were bringing that closer to the core, both in
terms of attractive markets but also the performance of that subsegment.
<Q Scott Graham>: Thanks very much.
<A Larry Kingsley>: You bet.
Operator: And we will take our next question Ned Borland of Hudson Securities.
<Q Ned Borland>: Hi, good morning. Just a -
<A Larry Kingsley>: Hi, Ned.
<Q Ned Borland>: follow-up on a couple of the earlier questions here. With regard to
the energy projects that you mentioned, mostly the developing regions, domestically with regard to
the refinery market, are you seeing any kind of pickup in maintenance spending for refineries that
would affect liquid controls or maybe some of the other folks?
<A Larry Kingsley>: I think wed say thats kind of flattish, Ned. So not a huge growth
assumption being driven by U.S. refinery spending on what is maintenance budget allocated funds.
<Q Ned Borland>: Okay. And then with regard to the restructuring, is that something thats
already planned, or is it sort of a contingent restructuring, contingent on how economic conditions
are or how do we think about that?
<A Larry Kingsley>: Contingent upon our continued review on return on investment of the
couple of things that were looking at.
<Q Ned Borland>: Okay. All right.
<A Dominic Romeo>: And Ned, within the number there is about $0.01 thats carryover from
2009, but the rest, the 3 to 4, 2 to 3 would be, to Larrys point, additional items that we would
consider. But there is about $0.01 of carryforward.
<Q Ned Borland>: Okay. And then on HST, I mean, very impressive margins, probably the best
since youve really broke that business out. It sounds like there is some sustainability to that
margin, given the new products are ramping up and the core business seems to be going well. I mean,
are there any headwinds we should be thinking about in that business with regard to margin?
<A Larry Kingsley>: As weve talked historically, there is always a little bit of mix
impact within HST that quarter-to-quarter you can see things bounce up and down. Typically, its
not more than about 150 basis points, less than that for the most part. So the question is, are we
bouncing around at a higher level? The answer is, yes. And its all, frankly, because of what I
just mentioned with regard to the prior question. The situation is that there arent any real
margin laggards in the segment at this point. And the team has done, again, just a great job on the
cost structure side. So I do anticipate margin volatility to some degree as we go forward, but it
will be at a very high level.
<Q Ned Borland>: Okay. Thank you.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Sure.
Operator: And we will take our next question from Matt Summerville with KeyBanc.
<Q Matt Summerville>: Good morning. Just a couple of quick follow-up questions. I want to
make sure Im thinking about the leverage in your business properly. How much do you anticipate
seeing in 2010, relative to 2009, on an incremental basis related to your restructuring? And then
how should we think about kind of washing against that any add-backs youll get or youll
experience in discretionary spend?
<A Larry Kingsley>: As we said earlier, Scott, basically the way to think about modeling
the incremental growth is that were going to flow it through at 45%. Thats the number which is
inclusive of a little bit of carryover year-on-year in terms of savings that you see from the 2010
versus 09 impact. Also, obviously inclusive within that number are investments that were making.
Weve got quite a few number of quite a few engineering projects that were working right now
which will yield some nice out-year organic growth. And the investments that were making back in
the business would be also the bridging item as to how you get to that 45% incremental flow
through.
The good news here is, as weve talked in the last couple of quarter calls, is that there really
isnt a big cost flow-back concern because the actions we took were structural. They werent
temporary cost actions, big, large, long furloughs, things of the sort that form some kind of
headwind in 2010. And frankly, were really pleased with the costs that we got out because its
pretty much sticky. So -
<Q Matt Summerville>: Larry, and then just one more question. How much pricing were you
able to get across IDEX in 2009? And can you give us some color as to what youre baking into that
2 to 4% organic growth in 2010, and maybe across which segments do you anticipate being the most
successful with pricing going forward?
<A Larry Kingsley>: Theres not a lot of price baked into 09. Its about 0.5 point. And
there is not a huge price assumption built into 2010 at this time. Its also in the context of
thinking that there isnt going to be a huge material inflation impact to the business. As you
remember from our model, we do have a fair amount of flexibility, given the customized nature of
the product and the fact that we kind of price it out as we go, to adjust, should we need to. So
were never typically in any way impacted by more than 60, 90 days by any radically changing
commodity cost elements to our material cost structure.
The assumption big picture for 2010 is that material margins essentially hold with not a lot of
impact on the cost side, nor a lot of price. Were going to be in a great position to offer very
competitive pricing to our customers, which frankly, is again, a function of all the good work that
was done through the downturn.
<Q Matt Summerville>: Thanks, Larry.
Operator: [Operator Instructions]. Well go next to Charlie Brady with BMO Capital Markets.
<Q Charles Brady>: Hey, guys. Thanks. Good morning.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Hi. Good morning.
<Q Charles Brady>: With respect to your comments when youre talking about Band-It and
saying that I think you said that half the growth ought to come out of new products within the
past couple of years. Can you just expand on that thought to some of the other not necessarily
individual business units but maybe some of the other business segments? Since you because you
talk a lot about new products and Im wondering if maybe that growth potential on a new product is
being accelerated over the next 12, 24 months from maybe where its been maybe even prior to the
downturn.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Well, Im not going to go through a lot of specificity other than to
say that we rolled up our plans for the year. Our product vitality assumptions that weve got built
into the plan are very good. They are strong. We didnt adversely impact RD&E in 09. As a matter
of fact, actual spend, not rate of spend, but actual spend for RD&E increased through the course of
09. So, were in a fairly good position, frankly, to take advantage of investments made. And we
assume that many of our customers are anxious for new technology.
So if you go across the segments and you get down to a pretty granular look, what were seeing
right now is new product growth at margins that are at least as good as the base margins in their
respective businesses. Thats going to yield, for the full year, some pretty nice vitality metrics.
And I think its essentially across the board that were going to see that.
<Q Charles Brady>: Thanks. Thats helpful. And then Ill just ask the required acquisition
question on sort of how your pipeline looks and kind of where prices in terms of multiples look as
they are today.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Its the same comments that you get from us every quarter where weve
got a weve always got a decent pipeline. Right now, I would say our proprietary deal pipeline
looks pretty good, but we buy the right businesses at the right prices. And weve got a number of
those that are right businesses that are in various stages of discussions. And in a couple of the
cases, I think were going to definitely get the right prices. In other cases, they are the right
businesses but they might be later at the right prices.
<Q Charles Brady>: Okay. Fair enough. Thanks.
Operator: And we will take our next question from Christopher Glynn of Oppenheimer.
<Q Christopher Glynn>: Thanks. Good morning. Looking at going back into the HST
margins, you said bouncing around at a structurally higher level. Within that context, was the
fourth quarter a particularly good mix?
<A Larry Kingsley>: It was good mix. Yes.
<Q Christopher Glynn>: Okay.
<A Larry Kingsley>: Yes.
<Q Christopher Glynn>: And then just moving over to Dispensing, thinking about the
replenishment order you had last year, do those kind of come out of the blue or how far in advance
do you see something like that coming?
<A Larry Kingsley>: They tend to be long discussions, but can still come out of the blue.
<Q Christopher Glynn>: Okay.
<A Larry Kingsley>: I dont know if Im being Im not trying to be dodgy. Basically,
were always in discussion with our Dispensing customers about how we can help them with their
value proposition by way of some new equipment or add-on equipment or whatever the case may be. And
they tend to be discussions that are held at multiple levels with pretty good-sized companies in
the cases of the DIYs in particular. And they tend to be decisions that go in the form of maybe
maybe, maybe, maybe, yes. Its hard to time when they get to yes because theres multiple
functional groups involved with those decisions as they take place in the customer base.
<Q Christopher Glynn>: So it sounds like now theres really a lack of the maybe, maybe,
maybe, maybe discussions going on.
<A Larry Kingsley>: There are maybe discussions going on.
<Q Christopher Glynn>: There are? Okay. Thanks. Thats all I have.
Operator: And that does conclude todays question-and-answer session. At this time, I would like
to turn the conference back to Larry Kingsley for further remarks and closing comments.
Larry D. Kingsley, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Id just like to thank everyone for joining. We obviously appreciate your interest in the company.
I am really proud of how our team was decisive early in the recession and we executed obviously
almost flawlessly to position us extremely well as to where we sit right now.
Our comments regarding 2010 are assumptive on market stability. What we see at this point is that
well execute modest but very profitable organic growth. And obviously, the guidance doesnt assume
any impact from acquisition but the balance sheet certainly could can support that. The I
guess the view of the macro environment is that we dont think that were going to need a lot of
help. Even if the markets stay in limbo, well create our opportunity for ourselves, and that we
can deliver a very respectable EPS growth number in 2010, given all of what we said.
So thanks for participating and we look forward to seeing all of you through the course of the
year.
Operator: And that does conclude todays conference. We thank you for your participation.