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Exhibit 99.1
C O R P O R A T E P A R T I C I P A N T S
Kristi Marvin, Founder, SPAC Insider
Joanna Coles, Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer, Northern Star Acquisition Corp.
Matt Meeker, Co-Founder and Executive Chairman, BarkBox, Inc.
Manish Joneja, Chief Executive Officer, BarkBox, Inc.
Henrik Werdelin, Co-Founder and Chief Strategy Officer, BarkBox, Inc.
John Toth, Chief Financial Officer, BarkBox, Inc.
P R E S E N T A T I O N
Kristi Marvin
Good afternoon, and thanks, everyone, for joining todays Investor Presentation and Live Q&A session with the executive management teams from both Northern Star Acquisition Corp. and BARK.
Presenting today from BARK will be the Co-Founders, Matt Meeker and Henrik Werdelin, as well as Chief Executive Officer, Manish Joneja and Chief Financial Officer, John Toth. Additionally, representing Northern Star is Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer, Joanna Coles.
To start, the teams will be giving a brief presentation overview of the intended combination, which will be followed by a live Q&A session. Please note that participants can submit questions directly to the panel at any time via the Q&A icon found by hovering your mouse at the bottom of your screen.
With that being said, Id like to turn it over now to Joanna Coles to kick off the presentation.
Joanna Coles
Thank you, Kristi.
Im very excited to be here today to introduce the team from BARK and to give you a sense of what my partner, Jon Ledecky, and I were so excited about when we met this crew.
They are creating the worlds favorite dog brand, and just as Starbucks is to coffee, Peloton is to indoor fitness, we believe that BARK will be to dogs. Its already got 1.1 million subscribers to its dog toy box, and it has an unparalleled relationship with those consumers/customers, so its got 1.1 million subscribers, and it has monthly conversations with 250,000 of those customers, which gives it extraordinary data with which to create a product roadmap, and well be taking you through that in a moment, and also a lot of data to de-risk the future of that product roadmap, but I think what most drew Jon and I to BARK was the team of co-founders.
They are extraordinarily innovative. Theyre all serial co-founders. This is not their first rodeo, and they have the smarts to know, last year, as they could see the business really scaling, that they needed to bring in someone that had global and real operational expertise, so they hired Manish Joneja from Amazon where he was a director in the team leading global growth, so they have an extraordinary management team, and well be hearing from John Toth, the CFO, too, and they have extraordinary room for growth.
With that, let me hand it over to Matt Meeker, one of the co-founders, who will tell you about his inspiration for BARK. Matt?
Matt Meeker
Thank you, Joanna. Very kind introduction.
Hello, everyone. Im Matt. Im one of the co-founders of the company and the Executive Chairman, and as Joanna mentioned, Im going to put up a few slides. Theyre probably familiar to you, but Ill give a little voice over and talkstalk about some highlights of the company, and then well try to get to the questions as quickly as possible.
As Joanna mentioned, this is the inspiration for me. This is my dog, Hugo. He is now a nearly 11-year-old Great Dane from New York City, and he has led us toor has led me to a lot of the products and experiences that weve created, and certainly, that unparalleled level of personalization, and so let me hit at very high level whats really important to know about BARK.
First off, this is why were here. Were here to make all dogs happy. We are passionate dog people, and we want to serve, and we do serve every dog individually. What that means is, as Joanna said, were serving over 1.1 million subscribers every month, and growing; sending out over 150,000 unique assortments to those dogs in our toy and treat business, so highly, highly personalized experience.
The next thing you should know is that we areour fiscal year ends March 31, so we are finishing up a fantastic year with top-line revenue that is $369 million, which represents 65% year-over-year growth, at gross margins that are 60% plus. That reflects what we havethe products that we have and the model that we use, and that model being, first off, that everything that we sell is 100% designed by us and made exclusively for us, so thats how we get to a 60% plus gross margin profile versus a third partyor a retailer or marketplace like a Chewy, for example, who is sourcing largely third-party products and operating at a significantly lower gross margin. Thats the difference in that, so everything we sell is BARK made and designed.
We love subscription. Eighty-seven percent of the business is recurring monthly revenue and subscription; the balance being in retail channels, 23,000 retail doors and Amazon, and then again, that personalization at scale, so its very important stuff to know.
If youre unfamiliar with it, we are fortunate to be in a fantastic market. Its huge. It covers well over half of the households in the U.S. and worldwide. Its growing through economic downturns like in the past year and prior. It is highly resilient and always has grown through those downturns in the last 30 years, more so last year, and then theres a big brand opportunity for us to claim the word dog in peoples minds and make it synonymous with BARK.
I think the last thing to know, and I mentioned it just previously here on this slide when Im talking about this, is weve tried to create a very sensible business from the start, so weve reached these heights over the years by raising, in total, $57 million of outside capital over a nine-year period to get to this point. Thats because were very focused on our margins, strong unit economics. I mentioned the 60% gross margin there.
We have an LTV thattypically the LTV to CAC is hanging in the 4 times to 5 times ratio. Its higher than 5 times for this past year, and were breaking even on our CAC within four months. Our CAC has been fairly steady or flat for the last four to five years, so its a highly-disciplined company, and, as I said, a sensible business.
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I think the last point to discuss is just weve got a great core foundation. Our core BarkBox and Super Chewer monthly subscription business is EBITDA positive for the full year that were in, so we could choose to be a profitable company and grow those profits and continue to grow that business, which we will. At the same time, we have so much more opportunity because weve gotten to know our customers so well and what their future needs are. Weve created three new product lines that you see here; Bark Eats, Bright, and Home, serving the food, health, and home categories, and so what youll see in the future this year and beyond is a very aggressive push into those, both with external marketing to bring new customers into the BARK ecosystem, as well as cross-sell and up-sell using CRM and lifecycle marketing tools with our install base of over seven million customers to date.
Well also continue to expand our retail and Amazon opportunities, and really, immediately, our big focus is on the food opportunity and trying to disrupt, Id say, a fairly 20th century business, especially in this mass premium and basic market which is where were competing, so thats what were going after with a direct-to-consumer brand and a head start of seven million customers who we can tap into right away.
With that, I think we can open it up to questions for myself, for Manish, Henrik, John. Fire away, please.
Kristi Marvin
Yes. Just as a reminder for everybody, you can submit questions by hovering your mouse at the bottom of the screen and youll see a Q&A icon, and you can just type the question indirectly in there, so to start, lets see what weve got.
What are your plans and opportunities for growth in the near and long term? I know you mentioned just now new product lines, but maybe you can talk andabout more longer term.
Manish Joneja
I can take that.
Matt Meeker
Sure.
Manish Joneja
All right. Hey, everybody.
We have a really strong backbone, as Matt talked about, in terms of subscriber base and the products we have. Now, if I can simplify what the futurethe way that were looking about the next couple of years is product diversification, so our near-term four categories remain home, health, play, and food, and youve seen us innovate on the toy space, the BarkBox space. Food is something Ill touch upon in a second, as well as health and home.
These are the categories we are scaling on, so being a vertically-integrated, data-driven dog brandI want to emphasize were a dog brand right now. The play aspect is like BarkBox, Instagram (inaudible) themed goodies that our customers receive every month.
Food; Bark Eats is scaling in Columbus, and we have plans to expand it further into additional states and into the entire United States. Home; we have a full line of essentials. That includes all the most popular dog beds in Amazon, and health.
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We have innovative dental products. Those of you who have dogs, youll realize how difficult it is to clean the teeth. I have to. I have a 13-year-old Lab. He and I have a 8-year old mutt I got back fromshe was an ex-stray, and itsthe most difficult thing I have to do is brush their teeth, so we actually worked with Novozymes and co-built a product that is unique in this space to help us clean our dogs teeth. We design and make our own unique toys and deliver a (inaudible)-like experience; not just curation, but for you and your dog, specifically, so the goods thatll come to my dog, Kiki, will be tailored for her, not just an old Lab, and thats the uniqueness that we bring, and we (inaudible) those offerings for them by leveraging not just our customer relationship through the Happy Team, but also through the data and machinery engine that we built, right, so thats why Im doubling down on our product diversification.
Second in channel diversification, we talked about Amazon marketplaces, retail channel personalization, and driving back customers into our ecosystem for higher LTV. Matt talked about our objective is making all dogs happy. We know, as dog owners, you tend to shop at different places. We would love to have you on the platform, but we do realize that you might be walking in a store or Amazon, or buying a Target. We want to serve you there as well, so we have those strengths through 23,000 doors, and thatll continue to grow first in the U.S., and then globally.
Then, when you bake this thing in and cover it by machine learning, CRM, and a unified experience for the BARK brand, not just BarkBox, the Super Chewer, or Eats, but the BARK brand, thats what the future holds for us, and we havent talked about global expansion yet, so there are about 64 million, 63 million dog owners. We are 1.x million right now, and we are scratching the surface for U.S., and we are looking at international expansion in the next frontier for us. Thats how we think about what our growth opportunities are and where were investing right now.
Kristi Marvin
Got it. That makes sense.
Another question we have here. What do you like about the subscription business model, and will you move away from this model as you continue to expand?
Matt Meeker
I think Ill take that one, because I love the subscription model.
The things that we love about it, or that I love about it, personally, is first off, the visibility and predictability that you get. Over 90% of our subscribers, when they sign up, are committing to either a six-month or a 12-month commitment with us, so that gives us a lot of visibility in terms of our planning, our financials, our forecasting, and that leads to our good hiring plan, goodand again, like a very sensible business, but also helps with our planning on the supplier side, and that helps us control our costs in a very effective way, and then we get a relationship with the customer.
We only have to acquire them one time, and we get the opportunity to serve them every month, learn about them, have a conversation with them, and learn more about how else we can serve their dogs, and extend that relationship more and more, so its on us to build a better and better experience every month, but we get that opportunity without more advertising dollars chasing them and the opportunity to grow that relationship over time, so it is the dominant part of our business today in terms of revenue.
That said, as I mentioned, weve expanded into brick-and-mortar retail across 23,000 doors, into Amazon. We have our BarkShop, which is à la carte retail, and so its not subscription or nothing. We recognize thats not the right model for everyone, and well continue to balance that and have it match the product or experience thats right for it.
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Kristi Marvin
Got it. Makes a lot of sense.
Theres a fun one here. Any plans about getting into the cat market? Im thinking MeowBox could be huge.
Henrik Werdelin
Ill jump in before Joanna gets the microphone, because she owns a cat.
We believe that when you want to build a defining brand in a cat, you need to have quite a lot of authenticity, and we are dog lovers and that is what we built the business on, and for us to really capture the relationship and the respect, and the credibility with people who love the dogs as much as we do, I think were focusing on that to start with.
Now, that being said, we believe that we are a 21st century company that understands how you build a direct-to-consumer company is by really listening to your customers and talk a lot with them, and then feed that information, that data, into your product development cycle so you can build something very fast that takes care of anyand we think that can be applied to, of course, cats, as people might imagine, because a lot of our customers already have cats, but Ill encourage people to think further than that. There is no reason why that couldnt be applied to families who live with babies, or other companion animals like horses, but for now, we are a dog company, and then as we are rolling out different products, well definitely look at other things.
Kristi Marvin
Great.
Another question here. What is your advertising and marketing strategy, and then it says specifically, are you looking for specific partners with Facebook or Instagram? Are you looking at TV ads, premium content, etc.?
Matt Meeker
Yes. Today, primarily, it is direct response and digital, and so that is Facebook and social media, overall, both organic and paidsearch organic and paid, and then a lot of relationships that we call it affiliate, which is probably a poor label, but its meant to be anything thats a per-action relationship, and so that could be like we pay for a new subscriber, we pay revenue share, or sometimes, often, just paying influencers for their influence, thoseand thensorry, last but not least, probably most important is organic and word-of-mouth and customer referrals.
Those have been what weve used for many years as sort of the core foundation. Weve just recently, in the last few months, started to expand into some of the channels weve mentioned; more linear TV, direct mail, podcast, radio, so trying to branch out beyond the direct response digital, and then theres a whole brand side which Henrik leads, and certainly, were going to benefit quite a bit from Joannas influence and expertise on the brand side. Bringing that into our boardroom and into the company is going to help us quite a bit.
Kristi Marvin
Yes, theres actually a follow-up question for Joanna, and it asks, do you seegiven your background in media, do you see potential for additional opportunities on the content side of the business?
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Joanna Coles
Well, thats a great question.
My background, for those who dont know, I was running the content for Hearst magazines 300 titles globally, and Im on the board of Snapchat, so yes, the first conversation we had, I think, was talking about content, and if you think about how Mickey Mouse is at the center of the Walt Disney empire, animals have been at the center of content empires before, and theres something about the BARK brand that reminds me hugely of Pixar in terms of it being something which really appeals to both dogs and to the dog parents, and I love the way that Pixar appeals to both kids and parents, and the smarts of the BARK brand have that here, so yes, were definitely talking about content.
The other thing I would say is that the first thing that the dog parent does when the BarkBox arrives every month, and its now sort of a secular ritual in the family life, is to reach for their phone and they film their dogs excitement, they film their excitement, and they immediately send it to their friends, they post it on BARK, they post it on BarkBox, they post it all over social media, and so you have every transaction as an informal ambassadorial moment for the brand, and I have rarely come across the passion with which customers feel for this brand. Its really exciting.
Kristi Marvin
Got it. Yes, that makes a lot of sense.
This is a specific question for Manish. Can you point to any experiences and skill sets that you gained from your work at Amazon and eBay that will aid you in accelerating the rapid growth of BarkBox?
Manish Joneja
Yes, sure.
I spent the last two decades on only channel commerce and global growth. It was about always customer backwards. First it was customer backwards within the United States, and then it was more of a global customers backward, and it takes different mindset to help a brand expand globally, which is working backwards from, lets say, a British consumer versus an Australian consumer, and thats what Ive done and scaled those businesses back at those two brands and helped other retailers before.
On the personal front, Ive spent the last 13 years liking, loving, obsessing about dogs thanks to my, now, 13-year-old dog, Kiki, who was our first dogwho is our first dog, so when Matt and I talked, I felt an instant connection to the mission and the business that the team built, which is ripe for continued growth, and I feel that theres no singular brand right now that kind of resonates with the dog space. When you think about dogs, you end up with pets and you end up with retailers and market bases, but theres nothing that knows you and your dog at a personal level and can grow with you.
For example, if I think about my dog, Kiki, when she was like eight weeks old, she had different necessities, wants and needs versus now, shes 13 years old, she needs different supplements, and throughout her life, I had to do a lot of research about what to feed her, how to keep her engaged, how to keep her happy, what things do I need in my home to make my life easy and her life easy, and thats what I found at BARK as far as it can be as we actually invest in these (inaudible) as we move forward, and thats what Ive been doing in my past life. Im incredibly fortunate to have my passion as my work and work with this awesome team, but thats how I believe that I can actually get my professional mindset, along with my personal passion, together and take BARKhelp take BARK to the next level.
Kristi Marvin
Got it. Thanks.
This next question is from everyone from BARK, and it asks, when and how did you meet the team of Northern Star and what convinced you to do the deal with them as opposed to other stacks?
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Henrik Werdelin
I mean, I can jump in on that.
Weve always wanted to be an independent company, and weve always seen an IPO in our future, and so we were exploring the different avenues there were, and so the answer to that question is really Jon and Joanna who we met and felt had a lot of things to add to our team.
Joanna, as mentioned, is very knowledgeable about content, and weve always really leaned into the entertainment side of our business, and Jon Ledecky is somebody who is very knowledgeable and knew a lot about financial markets and going public, and so, for us, it was less the instrument and more the people. Weve always been an organization that is very people-driven, and so I guess thats the single answer to that.
Kristi Marvin
Got it.
Next question. Actually getting a number of questions about this, but do you plan on getting into pet insurance?
Manish Joneja
Oh, Henrik, you were saying something, or should I take it?
Henrik Werdelin
No. You can go for it.
Manish Joneja
Okay.
Not right now. See, we think in two terms. One is like long-term Northstar, which is five, ten years out, and the second is whats immediately into our near-term future? Were working on products right now. Were making sure that we can actually cover the dog brand and be the (inaudible) dog parents and serving those four categories that I talked about, but yes, as you think about the future, service is something youre talking about, global is something youre talking about, brainstorming that. Now is not the right time. When were ready, we will actually act after that. Thats not now.
Kristi Marvin
Got it.
Theres a question that Im just going to take for everybody, because there are number of questions asking when the merchant date is up. Theyre still in the proxy process. They have to get through that before they can actually set a date, so in the next month or two, I imagine itll probably be a little bit closer, but the team is just not going to have a book date just yet.
Joanna Coles
Yes, I would just say we filed the proxy on Monday of this week, and we would expect, all being well, to de-stack mid-April.
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Kristi Marvin
Got it.
This is probably a good question for everybody, but how has your business effectively dealt with COVID, and has COVID affected the company and has it made your business stronger?
Matt Meeker
Maybe Ill take that one.
Its a bit of a double-edged sword there. Weve certainly brought a lot of new dogs into our homes, collectively, in the U.S. over the past year, and so thats just many more customers for us to serve, and weve seen some of those tailwinds in our growth because of that, and then also because were allthose of us that have dogs, were spending a lot more time at home with them, and probably dont want them to annoy us so much, so we buy them toys and treats to keep them entertained, so weve certainly had an acceleration due to that.
It presents challenges, so in the early parts of it where we were having massive growth, or unprecedented growth, we were also under the strain of we couldnt handle it all simply because we didnt have enough inventory. We couldnt sell to every customer who wanted to buy, and then I think its well known across the delivery networks; FedEx, UPS, USPU.S. Postal Service, that theyve been constrained, certainly through the holiday season, and so managing that is a challenge, and working with our customers who, frankly, are incredibly understanding of whats going on in the world and that were trying to navigate that as best we can, so there are pros and cons, but on the whole, were fortunate that its propelled our business forward and introduced us to a lot of new customers in a very rapid period that are now subscribers, and we get to carry oncarry forward with them, and the great thing about our subscribers is you may have just got your dog last April or May at the start of COVID, but when we all get our vaccines, youre not returning that family member to a shelter. Youre keeping them and keeping the relationship with us, so, on the whole, a very net-positive for us.
Kristi Marvin
Great. Great.
This question might be a good one for John. It asks could you quantify how much of your customer acquisition is organic versus inorganic?
John Toth
Were now in that zone where were constrained by what we disclose publicly, consistently, but roughly, 20% to 25% of the subscribers we get are organic. We have an incredible team called the Happy Team that, as Joanna mentioned, reaches out to about a quarter of our customers every month to engage in relationship building, and that really helps drive the organic.
Kristi Marvin
Great.
Heres an interesting one. How are you using socially-responsible efforts to bolster the BARK brand, or what are your plans going forward?
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Henrik Werdelin
I can maybe start on that, and maybe Matt.
Its a broad question, and I think, from a brand point of view, it comes to that were all about people, and that includes the people that we work with as partners. That includes the people we have working in the company. Its our customers. Its our vendors, and everything like that, and so I think its like a must that you have to have that into consideration.
Were doing quite a bit of stuff on making sure that all our sourcing is up to par, whichgoing to the factories; those kind of things, and then as we introduce more and more product lines, its something that we, from the product team, is spending a lot of time on, and so its maybe a little bit too generic question to give the specifics of, but its definitely something thats top of mind and something we think is important.
Kristi Marvin
Okay, great.
Also getting a bunch of questions about your competitive advantages and disadvantages as it relates to your competitors. Maybe you can kind of discuss that, and theres been a couple of questions also relating to Chewy, right, which is probably the most obvious competitor for you guys, so maybe you can kind of talk about that.
Matt Meeker
Yes, and its difficult to say who or what a competitor is because Chewy is often thecertainly from like a public market perspective, they are the comp that most people go to, but not necessarily a competitor. I think of us as very different businesses where they are a retailer in a marketplace largely selling third-party products, and most of those are food, so taking a bag of Blue Buffalo and selling it through to a customer, where, again, everything we sell is something that weve designed and made, and thereoftentimes, theres a very unique experience around it like the BarkBox or Super Chewer box that we send on a monthly basis, and were in discussions with Chewy, just as we are withbeyond discussions with Petco, PetSmart, Target, Costco. Those are retailers who we actually have relationships with and sell, so our products are on the shelves of every Petco store, every PetSmart store, and we hope very soon theyre on the virtual shelves at Chewy as a partner.
At the same time, obviously, we have overlapping customers and were serving them in different ways, and were moving into food with Bark Eats in a very different way. This is BARK-blended food combined with a service and experience where were trying to feed your dog in a better way and a healthier way, and Chewy will continue to serve food, so well be somewhat competitive in that, and, of course, theyre trying to broaden their product set and move into health and probably toys and treats asin addition to the food basis, so Id say were pretty far apart right now in our approach and the products that were selling to customers, and probably inching closer and closer to each other, but oftentimes, the competitors that are coming to mind are both competitors a little bit, and also partners a little bit, and thats been working out pretty well for us so far.
Kristi Marvin
Got it.
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Manish Joneja
If I can add to that, (inaudible), so think of us as a vertically-integrated dog brand. We design and make our own products and experiences, and deliver highly-personalized experience; not just curated where you put 10 things in a box and send it to you, but understanding what your dogs data that you provided to us; what we know, what are location, what they like versus not, for example. We have 100 different kind of squeakers that we know would work with Labs versus different dogs and how they can play through different toy mechanisms, right. Thats learning from the space, that technology and data that enables us to take personalized up to scale. Its very different.
If I can add to the Bark Eats part that Matt talked about, thats a very interesting one, it is. Think of Bark Eats as a high-quality food blend thats uniquely personalized to your dog, so if you have dogs, you realize the spectrum of available dog food either gel or kibble in bags, or its Ultra Premiums chews.
Now, what Bark Eats does is it provides you pricing aligned with mass (inaudible), but what you get is something very different than what you would get off the shelf, but the same price as off the shelf. You get premium experiences forat commodity pricing. You get access to a nutritionist that will actually help you create that Bark Eats product, which will be base of kibble and topper and supplements.
For example, I always go back to this anecdote with my dog. Shes allergic to chicken and needs health supplements which I do my own research on and add it on top of the food, but Bark Eats will be pre-portioned for her and her alone. As we know, at least I did, you tend to feed your dogs more to show love, which is great, but youthey tend to become obese. We pre-portion that for you at the right mix for your dogs age and breed and other factors, and the other aspect of this is, its not ayou just buy a brand and done. The food will evolve with your dog, so as your dogs age, their needs change, their supplements needs change. We have nutritionists on our platform thatll help us and work with the customers to tailor the food as the dog ages, so thats how Bark Eats are very different in terms of Im going to think about dog food.
Kristi Marvin
Great.
Actually, while were sort of on your new offerings, there are a couple of questions here, also, about Bark Home and Bark Light. Can you maybe expand on those as well?
Henrik Werdelin
Yes, maybe Ill start a little bit of the philosophy of how we build products, and then we can go into a little bit more concrete on that.
One of the luxuries we have is that we are the only brand that service the four verticals that we mentioned earlier; the fun, the food, the home, and the health, under one brand umbrella. There is other companies that do it with different kind of sub brands, but were the only one that has one brand, and what we do is we talk to our customers a lot. We talk to probably about 20% of them every month, and we do that as a strategy, so we dont try to avoid the conversation, and we do that because we think that the more we talk to them, the more they will give us data about what they need and the better products we can make for them, and so we always start there. The way that weve jumped into these other verticals is by really trying to figure out what is the problem that the customer is trying to serve.
For dental, for example, for Bark Bright, the first problem that customers were telling us was it is incredibly difficult to brush the teeth of the dog, and so we didnt try to come up with a better dental stick. We tried to come up with a better system of how do you actually solve this problem, and the solution we came up with was a dental stick that then was paired with an enzymatic toothpaste that we developed with Novozymes that you can then give your dog every day to try to reduce all the bad things that happen in the dogs mouth and to make sure that it doesnt have dental problems.
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Same thing for food. We didnt think that the world needed another bag ofa big 35-pound bag of kibble. What we thought what people needed was a better way of feeding their dog, and the way that you do that is you understand the dog, like all the things that Manish mentioned, and then a little bit like a Chipotle salad bar. You take the kibble, you mix it with the Bark Bright supplements, you mix it with a topper to make sure that the flavor profile is perfect for the dog, and then you portion control it so your dog doesnt overeat; biggest health problems for most dogs; and then you send it to people, but you send it as a membership instead of having it just like a bag, you have to pay. You can pay a monthly fee.
We can personalize and we can make sure that the brand travelsthe product travels with the dog as it matures through the different life stages where they normally would have to change food. The four lines; how do you live with your dog, how do you feed your dog, how do you keep it healthy, and how do you keep it entertained is really what constitute our product lines, and often, while we look like were just doing one product like the box, in fact, were personalizing down to the level where the BarkBox isit comes in about 150,000 different versions so that the customer can enjoy something fun that is themed every month, but if they, like me, have a dog with a chicken allergy, they dont have to have any worries about that, or if they have a dog that doesnt do well with rope toys, we can make sure that its includedexcluded. Thats how we think about the different product lines and how were building them out.
Joanna Coles
I would just add that one of the other things I think BARK is brilliant in doing is talking to the customer, which is why it has this unbelievably successful relationship with the customer. For example, if you were in Columbus, Ohio where the trial of the dog food has been taking place over the last year, you would get a fairly straightforward questionnaire that you fill in, but then about 20 minutes later, you get contacted by a dog nutritionist who really goes deep on your specific dog needs. We can then create the food for you, and then as both Manish and Henrik, and Matt have said, that food will follow you, so you get personalized dog food. Youre not going to be able to give that up and go back to the generic dog food. Why would you do that? We can deliver it at a really attractive price, and its specific for your dog. You are not going back to generic pink stuff in a tin.
Kristi Marvin
Got it.
Another question here. Are you planning retail stores in the future?
Manish Joneja
Not right now. We have retail partners. We are in multiple retail doors. We intend to continue leveraging that partnership and serving our customers through those doors.
Kristi Marvin
Right, and theres a follow-up question to that. Will you be sourcing products from U.S.A.-based manufacturing companies?
Manish Joneja
Yes, so our sourcing is spread across the world. Our food and treats are made in the U.S.
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Kristi Marvin
Got it. Okay.
This next question; BARK is known for its creative products and high level of engagement with customers. How do you plan to maintain that uniqueness and connectivity as you grow?
Manish Joneja
Henrik should take that.
Henrik Werdelin
Sorry, could you repeat the question?
Kristi Marvin
Sure. BARK is known for its creative products and high level of engagement with its customers, so it asks how do you plan to maintain the uniqueness and connectivity as you grow?
Henrik Werdelin
Well, I think we will try to stay quirky for a bit. I guess, taking Joannas point about Pixar, were definitely a company that try to be both left and right-brained, and so we use all the data that we get in to really inform the creative team, and then we try to make sure that we build on top of that. What I think is unique and what I think is specific with the question is that weve always see ourself as a kind of entertainment company, and the way that we do that is we utilize content on social to really make sure that our toys are not just a toy. It is like the toy.
Ill just give you an example. This is Consuela the Cactus, for example, that the people on Reddit might recognize. Shes been on the front of Reddit, I think, three times. Now, she might look like a normal toy, but she is an invention line that we have called Toys in Toys, and so if your dog destroys the outside of Consuela where shes happy, shes sad on the inside because shes complicated, and those small narratives that we create, creates a moment where the dog has something that we know works well because we know a lot about the fabric and the form design and all those things, and play dynamics with toys, but then we also try to make sure that its fun for the owner so that when the dog comes over with another toy that the dog owner didnt know that they had bought, they get excited about it too, and the dog, then, feeds out of that excitement. The dog gets more excited. The owner gets more excited, and stuff like that, and so that was the longer version.
The shorter version is were taking a lot of clue from the kids toy space. We look at companies like Pixar and Lego or Disney, and then were really taking a lot of their playbook and were applying it to dogs and their families.
Kristi Marvin
Makes sense.
Lets see. Do you currently have a customer loyalty program, and if not, is that under review? Positives and negatives of the program if youve done the analysis.
Henrik Werdelin
Im sorry, Matt. Go ahead.
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Matt Meeker
Sure.
We do not have a formal customer loyalty program in place today. Weve really ramped up our efforts with these new product lines to do more cross-selling and up-selling and engage our customers across more and more products. With that, our leadership is starting to think about the mechanics of a loyalty program. One thing that we are, though, is extraordinarily loyal to our subscribers. The longer youre a subscriber, the more loyal we are. If you came into BarkBox eight years ago as a subscriber like I did, you still have your price. When we raise a price, its for everyone going forward, not looking backward, so were loyal in that way, but were also loyal, and as we cross-sell and up-sell, thefor example, if youre a BarkBox subscriber today and then you want to add a Bark Bright subscription, you get the best price for Bark Bright thats available anywhere. For a new customer into BARK directly or at a Target store or a CVS or a Petco or Amazon, you get the best price, and so theres loyalty built in, but it hasnt been constructed into a formal program yet. I expect well do a lot of work on that over this year and start to move in that direction.
Kristi Marvin
Someone asked if its required that you have to get a dog to work at your company.
Henrik Werdelin
Get one as you get your employment.
Matt Meeker
Its highly encouraged.
Henrik Werdelin
I mean, Joanna will get that cat replaceits not required. It is definitely something that we ask and look for. We think that you really, truly have to live and breathe the products that you do, and it is just endless easier to emotionally connect and understand the customers if youre one of them, and so I dontits not a requirement, but its definitelya lot of our staff have dogs, and if you call our customer service team that we call Dog Happy, youre pretty certain that youll hear a dog lying on their lap, on the floor next to them, or if you come into our office, youll see our developer sitting on our couches with their dogs hanging over, soand so its definitely something we encourage, but its not a requirement.
Kristi Marvin
This is probably another question for you too, Henrik, sorry, but its asking what is your return on ad spend? Do you have any data at hand regarding that? Thats for you? Okay.
Matt Meeker
Go on, Henrik.
No, we think of it in terms of subscription and lifetime value of a customer to the cost of acquisition, so our cost of acquisition over the last few years has been in the range of $46 up to $54; this past year, on the lower end of that, more in those high $40s, and we look at a lifetime value to CAC ratio, so what were experiencing right now is something around 5.5 to 1, so if our CAC is $50, a lifetime value of $275 just for round numbers, and we like to see that in the 4 times to 5 times range. That said, were deploying our dollars fast enough and maximizing our growth, but wisely enough that were not just buying our way to growth.
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John Toth
Im sorry. Just to add on, the lifetime value is calculated based on gross profit, not on revenue, which is some of what our comps do, and we aim to break even on our CAC within four months. Weve done it as fast as two months recently, but thats a metric we live by.
Kristi Marvin
Got it.
This is along the same vein; money. How are you going to use the proceeds from the transaction, is the question, so maybe thats a question for both Matt and Manish.
Matt Meeker
Or John.
Kristi Marvin
Or John.
Matt Meeker
Go for it, John.
John Toth
They gave me the dog with the money in its mouth. Henrik gave me that for a reason.
Maybe Ill start, and Manish, Ill pass it on to you for some of the further growth vision.
As Matt said, profitability is a choice for us, and our S-4 was filed, as Joanna said, earlier this week, so if you go into the STIC SEC EDGAR account, youll see that, and also we filed with the SEC an 8-K in December, which has our management presentation we used for the pipe transaction, so a lot of the questions are covered in those documents as well if we dont get to them in this discussion.
The primary use of funds going forward is for marketing of our new products; Eats, home, and health. We generate interest and marketing and customer acquisition in advance of the revenue growth. We also need to staff out those teams. The third bucket is systems. We increasingly are, per the point about contact, building out our AI and our systems connectivity to give customer views and collect that information, and the fourth bucket, and only about 10% of the use of proceeds, is what I consider hard assets or capital spend on warehouses and distribution, but thats sort of the platform for the growth vision that the founders and Manish have laid out for us going forward.
Manish Joneja
No, I think youve captured well, right. In a nutshell, we will be the brand that will serve your dog from puppyhood throughout its age, and those four categories I talked about, it serves your dogs wants and needs, right, from lets say, a BarkBox puppy aspect like how to serve puppies, different breeds, ages, location, and then evolve into, lets say, BarkBox or Super Chewer or the nylon mix where your dog might actually be more aggressive chewer than normal, and then get food and dog and supplements, and building that core backbone structure along with investments and machine learning systems and taking that to a global level next, thats where our investments will go.
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Kristi Marvin
Got it. Thanks.
We are coming up on the end of the session here. We probably have time for one more question, or maybe two, but the question here is what percentage of your customers are currently recurring?
Matt Meeker
Eighty-seven percent of the revenue is recurring revenue.
Kristi Marvin
Got it. Okay.
I know you guys touched a little bit on expanding internationally, but there have been a lot of questions since then; people still asking about that, specifically one asking about Staff America, but maybe for anybody who sort of missed the beginning of the Q&A session here, maybe you guys can go over that again.
Manish Joneja
Yes, sure.
We do plan to serve international consumers, because international consumers love their dogs as much as we do. We want to make sure that we serve them right. Now that means is that we have various platforms through marketplaces and retail. We can expand faster into many of those markets, so from our product line perspective, thats what were working on, and then second thing that we are assessing is that informs us to think about which countries do we want to have footprint in and what sort of investment will we make there, so its on the horizon. Were thinking about the plans through retail marketplace and subscription business. I dont have an exact timeline to answer exactly when well go there, but yes, thats something that is in our plans at Northstar.
Kristi Marvin
Got it.
There are actually a few questions that came in to follow up on the previous question we just had. Specifically, what is the churn rate for customers currently and what is the retention rate?
John Toth
In our most recent period, our retention is 94.4%. We calculate that on a product basis. Thats not a customer retention. We dont aggregate revenue or gross profit across purchasing on Amazon, Target, subscription, etc. Its based on our subscription product business, so month-over-month, its 94.4%. If you got a month lastif you got a box last month, did you get a box this month, so 5.6% monthly churn. In that number includes our one-month subscribers. These are people who subscribe for one month almost as a test trial, so we tend to be very aggressive in calculating our retention so we dont kid ourselves.
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Kristi Marvin
Got it.
Well, I think we are a little bit out of time here, but yes, this is probably a good place to end.
I wanted to thank everybody for participating today, and as far as a replay, as soon as we have a replay link, Ill be able to circulate that so youll be able to view it again, and I hope everybody has a good afternoon. Thanks, everybody.
Henrik Werdelin
Thank you, all.
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