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CHS Q4 2010 Chicos FAS, Inc. Earnings Conference Call
Event Date/Time: Feb 23, 2011 / 01:30PM GMT
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Robert Atkinson
Chicos FAS, Inc. VP of IR
Chicos FAS, Inc. VP of IR
Dave Dyer
Chicos FAS, Inc. President, CEO
Chicos FAS, Inc. President, CEO
Kent Kleeberger
Chicos FAS, Inc. EVP, CFO, COO, CAO
Chicos FAS, Inc. EVP, CFO, COO, CAO
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Janet Kloppenburg
JJK Research Analyst
JJK Research Analyst
Margaret Whitfield
Sterne, Agee Analyst
Sterne, Agee Analyst
Liz Dunn
FBR Capital Markets Analyst
FBR Capital Markets Analyst
Stacy Pak
Barclays Capital Analyst
Barclays Capital Analyst
Adrienne Tennant
Janney Capital Markets Analyst
Janney Capital Markets Analyst
Edward Yruma
KeyBanc Capital Markets Analyst
KeyBanc Capital Markets Analyst
Betty Chen
Webush Securities Analyst
Webush Securities Analyst
Dana Telsey
Telsey Advisory Group Analyst
Telsey Advisory Group Analyst
Sam Panella
Raymond James Analyst
Raymond James Analyst
Kimberly Greenberger
Morgan Stanley Analyst
Morgan Stanley Analyst
Lorraine Hutchinson
BofA Merrill Lynch Analyst
BofA Merrill Lynch Analyst
Paul Lejuez
Normura Group Analyst
Normura Group Analyst
Jennifer Black
Jennifer Black & Associates Analyst
Jennifer Black & Associates Analyst
Alex Fuhrman
Piper Jaffray Analyst
Piper Jaffray Analyst
Roxanne Meyer
UBS Securities Analyst
UBS Securities Analyst
Liz Pierce
Roth Capital Partners Analyst
Roth Capital Partners Analyst
Michelle Tan
Goldman Sachs Analyst
Goldman Sachs Analyst
Richard Jaffe
Stifel Nicolaus Analyst
Stifel Nicolaus Analyst
PRESENTATION
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Greetings and welcome to the Chicos FAS fourth-quarter results conference call. At this time,
all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the
formal presentation. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Robert Atkinson, Vice President of Investor
Relations for Chicos FAS. Thank you, Mr. Atkinson. You may begin.
Thanks, Jackie, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to the Chicos fourth-quarter earnings
conference call and webcast. Dave Dyer and Kent Kleeberger join me here at our National Store
Support Center in Fort Myers.
Before Dave begins his executive overview, I must remind you of our Safe Harbor statement. Certain
statements made this morning, including, without limitation, statements addressing the beliefs,
plans, objectives, estimates or expectations of the Company or future results or events constitute
forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of
1995, as amended. Such forward-looking statements involve known or unknown risks, including, but
not limited to, general economic and business conditions and the conditions within the specialty
retail industry. There can be no assurance that future results, performance or achievements
expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements will occur.
Users of forward-looking statements are encouraged to review our latest annual report on Form 10-K,
our filings on Form 10-Q, Managements Discussion and Analysis in the Companys latest annual
report to shareholders, our filings on Form 8-K and other federal securities laws filings for a
description of other important factors that may affect the Companys results of operations and
financial condition. The Company does not undertake to publicly update or revise its
forward-looking statements, even if experience or future changes make it clear that projected
results expressed or implied by such statements will not be realized.
Please note that we will file an 8-K with the SEC that will include a transcript of todays
conference call and webcast. With that, I will turn it over to Dave Dyer.
Thanks, Bob, and good morning and thank you for joining our analyst call for the fiscal 2010
fourth quarter and for our year-end.
We are pleased to report both sales and earnings increases for the quarter, in spite of a winter
weather pattern that I have not seen the likes of in my retail career. Usually, you get one or two
things happening during a quarter, but this year, snowstorm on top of snowstorm, torrential rains,
ice storms, mudslides, occurring coast-to-coast, usually just in time for the busy weekends, which
in turn caused several hundred stores not to be able to open. I mean, what next locusts?
We estimate weather cost us $10 million to $12 million in sales, which would have improved our
comps by a couple of points and our EPS by a couple of cents.
That said, I was pleased how our brands reacted to the business to make sure we entered spring in a
good, clean inventory position. I believe we began the holiday season with great fashion
assortments that resonated with our customer. Unfortunately, we had to be more promotional to move
the inventory built up weather-related problems.
We are satisfied with both quantity and quality of inventory at year-end. Excluding the incremental
in transit, our inventory is up only 2.7% per square foot, including new stores. Obviously, these
extra promotions and markdowns affected our margin.
Just a word on comp sales. You may have read in our release that in our future we tend to report
comp store sales inclusive of direct-to-consumer. Basically, we are channel-agnostic. We want to be
there when she is there.
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It has becoming increasingly apparent that store sales and direct sales are intertwined, that the
customer does not differentiate between the two channels, and that it has become increasingly
difficult to properly attribute sales and marketing expense to the appropriate channel. For
example, the monthly mailing is designed to traffic our stores, but also drives e-commerce. Paid
Internet search actually drives more store sales than DTC sales. Internet marketing drives both
store and e-comm sales. Returns from the DTC to the store decreases store comp. Locate by the
stores from DTC increases store comp, et cetera, et cetera.
We managed a pooled inventory for both channels, and our merchants look at DTC as their largest
store. However, no matter how you look at the comps on a two-year basis, Chicos FAS is among the
best in the industry.
I would like to say a few words about our $1.00 a share goal for fiscal 2011, which was you
remember, was set in early 2009 as a three-year goal. At the time we set that goal, the Company had
just lost $40 million. This goal was a call to our organization to return to its historical
performance. We benchmarked ourselves against the KPIs and metrics from 2006 and set out to restore
our tradition of high performance.
The goal for 2011 remains $1.00 per share, which is now, as it was in 2009, a stretch goal. Last
November, we presented our strategic three-year plan to the Board of Directors. During 2010, the
strategic plan was developed from the bottom up by each brand and each function. The plan was then
thoroughly vetted by our Executive Committee and our Board of Directors. We believe there is
substantial growth opportunity in each of our three brands. We have planned growth and profit goals
that are a stretch to achieve, but not unattainable.
So, here we go again. The Chicos FAS Inc. EPS goal, or as I have called it before, the BHAG, the
big hairy audacious goal, for 2013 is $1.50 a share. Again, this is not a projection or guidance;
it is the stretch goal that we have internally set to challenge our Company to strive for high
performance.
Fortunately, we are off to a good start. Through yesterday, three weeks into this quarter, nine
weeks to go, our executive (inaudible) reports had the Company at a 17% increase in total sales and
a 13% comp increase, including direct-to-consumer. Again, this is a snapshot in time, not guidance
or forecast, but certainly improved momentum from the fourth quarter.
Lastly, I would like to announce a few executive changes. Jeff Jones, having completed his two-year
commitment to the Company, is retiring again and returning to his young family in St. Petersburg.
Luckily, I have convinced Jeff to consult with us for three days or so a month, focusing on data
analytics and systems. I would like to thank Jeff for his drive, tenacity, enthusiasm and passion
for our business. He has been a teacher and mentor to many in the organization, but most of all he
will be remembered as the guy that just got it done.
Our systems, operational disciplines and process improvement have moved from the Stone Age to
state-of-the-art in two short years. He has definitely his left his mark on Chicos FAS.
I am also pleased to announce that Kent Kleeberger, our CFO, has been appointed to the Chief
Operating Officer position. We are conducting a search, both internal and external, for a new Chief
Financial Officer. Kent will continue to have his responsibility as Chief Financial Officer and
Chief Accounting Officer until such time as his replacement is named.
I look forward to seeing many of you here in Fort Myers on March 1 I think that is next Tuesday
for our annual analyst event. And with that, I am going to turn the call over to Kent.
Thanks, Dave. Good morning, everyone. While our comp store sales for the fourth quarter were
within the range of expectation given on the third-quarter conference call, the degree of decrease
in the margin rate was below our plan. Todays release mentions that a portion of the margin
decline was due to a higher markdown rate compared to last year at White House|Black Market.
However, it is worth mentioning that while delivering a plus 21.2% comp increase in the fourth
quarter of 2009, White House had its highest fourth-quarter merchandise margin rate and the highest
average unit retail in their seven-year history as part of this Corporation. So they were up
against some very tough comparisons.
Nonetheless, the commitment to end the season with cleaner inventory necessitated their increase in
markdowns. Also, a higher promotional cadence and mix of clearance goods in the direct-to-consumer
or DTC channel also put pressure on gross margin, but we will take the kind of sales increase this
channel delivered any time.
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For the latest quarter, total net sales increased 9% from a year ago to a record for the fourth
quarter of $475 million. Comparable store sales, including direct-to-consumer, increased 4.5%. Comp
sales excluding DTC increased 1.1%. Our direct-to-consumer sales within their own channel increased
47.2% for the quarter and attained approximately 10% of total net sales.
By brand, Chicos and Soma Intimates combined comparable sales, including DTC, increased 4.4%, and
White House|Black Market posted a 4.7% increase in comp sales for the quarter. Excluding the
contribution from DTC, the same-store sales increases for Chicos/Soma and White House were 1.2%
and 0.9%, respectively.
Gross margin expressed as a rate of net sales decreased 140 basis points to 53.2%. As previously
mentioned, the decrease is primarily attributable to greater-than-planned markdowns at White
House|Black Market and lower merchandise margins in DTC, which were partially offset by improved
margins at our outlet stores, given the increased penetration of made-for-outlet apparel and
accessories.
Selling, general and administrative expenses expressed as a percentage of sales decreased 180 basis
points from a year ago. However, on a dollar basis, SG&A increased $10.2 million. The increase in
dollars went for higher store and direct operating costs associated with the 71 net new stores
opened since fourth quarter 2009, accompanied by the previously announced planned increase in
marketing expenses of approximately $4.4 million, followed by $2.6 million in bonus accruals versus
none for last years fourth quarter, as maximum bonus payout performance was achieved by the end of
the third quarter last year.
The effective tax rate for fourth quarter 2010 was 33% and was below last years fourth-quarter
rate of 33.7%. The lower rate was attributable to favorable state tax settlements, accompanied by a
benefit from the charitable donation of non-merchantable inventory.
Reviewing our balance sheet, cash plus marketable securities as of January 29 totaled $548.7
million, representing an approximate $125 million increase in those current assets from a year ago.
And again, we remain debt-free.
Total inventories at end of fourth quarter increased $21.3 million, while net store square footage
grew by almost 7% during the quarter. Excluding the incremental $8.5 million of inventory
attributable to in-transit merchandise as we shifted deliveries of goods to less expensive ocean
freight versus air transport compared to last year, inventory per selling square foot increased
just 2.7%.
Capital expenditures for 2010, including investments in new relocated, remodeled and expanded
stores, totaled $73 million compared to $67.9 million expended in 2009. While we opened many more
stores in 2010 compared to the prior year, the 2009 CapEx number included approximately $10.4
million for the opportunistic purchase of a 300,000-square-foot distribution center and additional
acreage near our existing distribution center in Winder, Georgia.
The end-of-year combined store and outlet square footage amounted to approximately 2.785 million
square feet for total Company, representing a net 6.4% increase over year-end 2009. During the
quarter, the Chicos brand opened three outlets and closed one boutique. White House|Black Market
opened one boutique, closed three and opened one outlet. And Soma Intimates opened six boutiques.
Chicos FAS ended the year with a total of 1151 stores compared to 1080 stores at the end of 2009.
Before commenting on our outlook for 2011, I want to address our efforts on sourcing, as it will
play a key role in how 2011 will play out. Over the past number of years, all of our brands have
experienced a growing trend where more of their apparel and accessories are manufactured overseas.
In order to leverage the purchasing power and talent of all of our brands, in late 2009, we began
consolidating our sourcing activities, previously residing with each brand, into one central group
to support all three brands.
We believe that our sourcing group working in concert with our key supply chain partners will
deliver higher quality, improved piece goods and finished merchandise costs, while providing the
opportunity to lessen freight costs and perform more of the quality assurance function at the point
of manufacture.
Also in 2009, we entered into a nonexclusive relationship with a world-class sourcing service
company. Acting as an agent for all three brands, this third party provides us with a number of
different merchandise sourcing services. Aside from identifying key suppliers of apparel and
accessories, they are also involved with product development, quality assurance, negotiation of
price and product flow tracking within the supply chain.
More recently, in order to lower sourcing costs in various parts of the world and address certain
other long-term uncertainties, such as cotton prices, we began regularly evaluating where best to
have our goods manufactured. As part of those initiatives, we continue to pursue new supplier
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relationships throughout the world. In 2009, the Peoples Republic of China accounted for 66% of
our merchandise sourcing. In 2010, that number is going to approximate about 60%. Our goal is to
get that percentage down to below 40% in the next 18 to 24 months.
Today, you can look at labels in our clothing and see Made in Vietnam, Indonesia, India or Sri
Lanka, and even the United States. Recently, we have made longer-term commitments with mills on
fabric to take advantage of price breaks and assure supply chain integrity. For the first time, we
have bought yarn after Chinese New Year to support our all-important sweater business. And we have
committed to much of the needs through the early fall season. And in some cases, within each of our
brands, we have had to raise price in certain category.
Now, looking at fiscal year 2011, while not providing specific EPS guidance, we are operating under
the following assumptions. We are targeting a positive low- to mid-single-digit comparable store
sales increase for FAS Inc., which will include DTC sales. This, coupled with the addition of 100
to 110 net new stores, should result in a net sales percentage increase in the very low teens for
2011.
We are planning the gross margin rate of sales to be up slightly, and will reflect the impact of
potential cost increases in product in fall 2011. This point of view should be considered
preliminary, as we are currently committing to September deliveries of apparel.
Our SG&A rate of sales should reflect about 150 basis points of leverage, resulting from a positive
comp and continued strong expense control. However, store and direct operating dollars will show
the impact of the expected 100 to 110 increase in net new stores, plus marketing expenses planned
up about $8 million compared to 2010.
As to the income tax rate, we are assuming 38% for the first quarter, as well as for the balance of
2011. With that, I will turn it back over to Bob to introduce the Q&A session.
Thanks, Kent. Before Jackie gives us the procedure for queuing for questions, I would ask that
each questioner limit themselves to one question and to one follow-up. In this way, we will be
better able to accommodate as many questioners as time permits. You are welcome to get back in the
queue to ask a question in the same manner you did originally.
Jackie, how may security analysts indicate a question?
QUESTION AND ANSWER
(Operator Instructions) Janet Kloppenburg, JJK Research.
Good morning, everybody. And Kent, congratulations on your promotion.
Thanks, Janet.
I wondered, Dave, if you could spend a minute talking about the outlook for Soma, if the loss
level came in lower in 2010 versus 2009, and what the projection in your reach numbers are for
Somas profitability or loss levels in fiscal 2011 and fiscal 2012. Thanks so much.
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Well, in fiscal 2011, it will make a four-wall profit contribution. It will be positive
four-wall profit. I think to totally cover the overhead of the Company, we probably will see that
in 2012.
Soma is doing very, very well right now. We dont report them separately, but I can say that their
total sales are running higher than the amount of stores that we are increasing, which is good. So
we are running at a higher rate than the amount of store increase. And our comp store sales lead
the Company.
So we think we are making good progress. You know, the interesting thing about Soma is the hard
part of the business, we have done pretty well in. When it comes to the foundations part, that is
always the part that is the hardest to get going. That is where we have the most traction.
We have some phenomenal results in foundations, bras and panties. And where we have had a little
more problem trying to get it going and where we have been feeling our way is in apparel. But I
think we are closing in on that also. The addition of beauty was important. The dresses and the
knit dressing that we are offering has great traction to it.
So I think that we are really finding our way and our voice, and I think we understand the store
model a lot better now, and we understand where and how to open profitable stores. So it looks to
me like that is coming together and gelling and I am positive on Soma.
Next question please, Jacqueline.
Margaret Whitfield, Sterne, Agee.
Good morning, and congratulations, Kent, again. A question on White House. I wonder you
mentioned weather impacted the outset, Dave. I wondered if you could comment on how White House
performed through Christmas and then what happened to the business in January, and any details on
merchandise issues. I saw a lot of beautiful dresses in the store over holiday. Thank you.
We did not have as good a dress season as we would like. But I think that White House|Black
Market, we may have had a delivery back in early December that was softer than we thought. And then
we had the one at the end of December, which was unbelievably strong.
That brand is a fashion brand. I think that we will from time to time have a delivery that is not
as strong as others. But overall, when you take a look at their growth and their growth trajectory
and back to running very, very strong comps now and running very strong total sales, I think you
will get a temporary hiccup from now and then, but the brand is a huge growth vehicle for us.
And as a matter of fact, you will start to see us upping the store rollout with White House|Black
Market. We have really found a lot of areas that not only can we open stores, but they will be
great profit contributors as we go forward.
Jackie, next question please.
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Liz Dunn, FBR.
Hi, good morning. I was wondering if you could touch on the productivity of outlets and how
the outlet strategy will impact gross margins for 2011. I know you said it would be positive, but
if you could just add that in there.
I think that the big driver in outlets currently is the Chicos brand. They have continued to
experience increased penetration in the made-for-outlet product and have begun expanding into
additional categories. A couple of years ago, they didnt have a major statement in accessories, as
an example.
Its interesting that White House has an outlet business, but they are just dabbling their foot in
the water, principally because it becomes a function of bandwidth. But I look for that business to
begin setting up to follow a similar pattern as Chicos to significantly increase made-for-outlet
penetration, probably in the latter half of 2011.
And then our Soma business, what they are doing, which I think is somewhat novel, that they are
actually mixing in some full-priced product in with their clearance goods. So I look for that
particular channel, from both a growth perspective as well as an increased MFO penetration, in both
White House and Soma to boost margins in the next few years.
And the productivity?
(multiple speakers) Their productivity relative to the brands are a tad higher.
Okay, great. Thank you.
[Stacy Pak], Barclays Capital.
Hi, thanks. I guess my question is on the direct business. You talked about clearance on
direct being a drag in the margin. And I am wondering when does the direct-to-consumer business
begin to leverage the cost of the distribution center. Is there a sales number that you can talk
about?
And does the clearance issue on direct-to-consumer stay that way because of what you are doing in
outlet, or is there a shift at some point when the growth in DTC should be additive to the overall
operating margin in the Company, and when does that happen?
Well, let me just address the clearance part. The reason why we are doing clearance on direct
e-commerce through e-commerce is because we liquidate at a higher margin than we can do in
the stores. So when you look at it from a Company point of view and again, that is why this
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thing is becoming so intertwined. When you look at it from a Company point of view, it is more
profitable to liquidate through DTC than it is in the stores. Now, when you look at the
distribution center, Kent, do you want to talk a little bit about that?
Yes, I think DTC has always levered the distribution center cost, just because the cost to
fulfill, in my opinion, is much lower than it would be from a stores perspective.
But the other thing I want to finish the thought on the gross margin piece is that when we say it
is a drag, well, that was really a comparison, DTC margin this year versus DTC margin last year.
What you really dont see is some of that clearance, which, oh, by the way, is being cleared at a
higher average unit retail than would normally have been done in the outlet space.
So really, the outlet performance has sort of a double win, if you will. It has greater
made-for-outlet penetration and its operating with less clearance than it did the year before.
Okay. And then, Kent, can you just clarify what you said about Soma? Because I thought you
said Soma is leading the comps. And then I also thought you gave a comp number that was lower than
Chicos. So what did you say there about Soma?
We didnt give a Soma comp number this is Dave but Soma comp for fourth quarter and for
first quarter to date is the highest of the three brands. And the sales total sales is higher
than anybody and running ahead of our store increase percent.
Okay. Thank you.
Adrienne Tennant, Janney Capital Markets.
Good morning, and Kent, let me add my congratulations.
Thanks.
And also congratulations to the team on kind of turning things around in fairly short order.
My question is on the real estate, the store openings, the 100 to 110. Can you give us any color by
concept quarter and then the number of closures expected? And then my follow-up is on gross margin,
how should we think about that across the year? It looks like you have tougher compares in the
first half of the year, but then it looks like there is quite a bit of opportunity for markdowns in
the back half of the year. So any color on that would be great. Thanks.
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In answer to your question on stores, I would say globally, it is our intent that the majority
of the openings will occur in the first half of the year. And it was probably pretty evenly
distributed between first and second quarter.
If we are on top of our game, there will be very few, if any, openings in the fourth quarter. And
as far as potential closures, by our estimates today, it is probably somewhere in the vicinity of
15 to 20, which is a little bit different from where we were a year ago because weve had some
remarkable turnarounds as well as some operational challenges for some underperforming stores. And
so we have gained quite a bit of ground there as well.
And then by concept, Kent.
By concept, meaning openings by brand?
Yes, openings by Chicos, White House, Soma.
Yes, we are going to step it up a little bit for Chicos. I think last year, when you combine
front-line and outlets, I think we opened 21 stores. We will probably be in excess of 30 for
Chicos.
White House, we opened 17 last year. We will probably looking to double that number. And then
Soma, we opened 41 stores and we are going to increase that number. We are still adjusting our
sights on how many we are going to do for Soma.
Okay, great. And then on the gross margin, please.
The gross margin piece get to that really quickly. I think that where most of the
improvement in gross margin is going to come from isnt as much IMU, particularly in the second
half. Its going to be more about improvement in markdown rate.
But I would say as it relates to the spring season, we are looking for a slight improvement in
spring. And it looks like we are going to try to make some significant improvement in the fourth
quarter next year. Just because of the level of markdowns that we incurred and hopefully we wont
experience the same severe weather patterns that were incurred this year, this past year.
Thank you.
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Edward Yruma, KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Thanks very much for taking my question and congratulations on a very good year.
Could you please address your merchandise quality? I know that you had some problems earlier in
2010, and I noted that in your commentary, you indicated that you had some non-sellable merchandise
that resulted in a tax benefit. How comfortable are you with your current vendors and your supply
chain?
Well, first of all, I am not specifically certain in terms of what particular quality issues
you referred to earlier in the year. I mean, we did have some issues in terms of delivery slides,
particularly in the White House business on dresses.
But our current vendor base, I think, is pretty solid, outside of the fact that we are having to
migrate production to some new countries. Honestly, I would rather have us in a position where we
are starting out with test orders first, but because of our desire to migrate out of China as
quickly as we can, we are not always afforded that, which will probably necessitate us having some
feet on the ground over there in the 2011 timeframe.
Great. Thank you.
Betty Chen, Wedbush Securities.
Thank you and congratulations on a great quarter. I was wondering if you can clarify, David
I think you mentioned earlier that comps were running 13% month to date. I know its a very early
snapshot. But does that already reflect some of the price increases that you were planning to make?
If not, when should we expect some of this price increases?
And then secondarily, Kent, can you also talk about the sources of the SG&A leverage that you are
expecting for 2011? Thank you.
Well, the three weeks comp into the first quarter, again, nine weeks to go, but we have
Presidents Day even though it was shifted, we have basically Presidents Day to Presidents
Day, so the month is very comparable through the first three weeks. And yes, those categories where
we have done price increases or actually, we have done them more or less on some items. There
have been some places in denim styles that we have increased price. There have been some places in
intimate apparel, with some of the foundations, that we have been able to get a little more price
leverage.
We are looking at it item by item and sales by sales, and sometimes we have the way some things
have sold so far in the first quarter, I wish we would have had a little bit more of a price
increase on them. But it is. It is comparable of everything. We dont have all the price increases
or all the product bought for the rest of the year. So a lot of certainly the second half is still
to be determined and come.
And once we understand the true extent of the cost pressure based on the mix of our business and
based on a specific item, then we will react to that. But it is certainly inclusive of anything
that has happened to date.
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And then your second part of your question was what were the sources of leverage in SG&A?
Obviously, when you have an increase in comparable store sales, you are going to be able to have
the ability to leverage your expenses. And so the way I would answer your question is more about
where do we think that as a rate of sales we are going to see the most significant declines in the
expense rate.
And I would refer to the two biggest parts of our SG&A expense, which would be store payroll and
occupancy. We have had some significant improvement in store payroll as a rate of sale in fiscal
year 2010. I think each of the brands have been really focused on really trying to drive home
efficiencies as well as cost per hour.
The other piece on occupancy, we experienced some significant occupancy leverage this past 12
months, and I expect that to continue into 2011 and 2012.
And then lastly, our increase in our marketing expenses, which I alluded to in my script, of about
$8 million, well, that is less of an increase in expense versus the prior year than we have been
trending. So we look for marketing expense as a percent of sales to improve as well. And those are
probably three of the biggest areas.
Thank you and best of luck.
Dana Telsey, Telsey Advisor Group.
Hi, good morning, everyone. Can you please talk a little bit about the Chicos product and the
evolution? Wear Now product, I think, was something you were working on last quarter. What are you
seeing in terms of progress there, whether its Wear Now, whether its jackets, travelers?
And then also you mentioned marketing spend, Kent. How do you think about the return on marketing
spend on the investment you are making? And just also on online, the opportunity for operating
margin improvement? Thank you.
I will try to remember all the questions. There was a lot embedded in there. First, in
transitioning from fall to spring, I think we have done that very well with all the brands.
Traditionally, we have not had a problem transitioning from fourth quarter to first quarter,
because the first quarter generally is one of our most productive and larger quarters of the year.
So we have started this quarter very, very strong.
Where we had issues was last year when we transitioned to fall too early in the second quarter and
into the third quarter, and I think that we are certainly on top of that this year and we will have
a lot more Wear Now into certainly into August. So I think that issue is behind us. And I am
trying to remember the other questions after that.
Return on marketing spend.
Return on marketing spend. Well, that is interesting. It really is a new world, and a lot of
the traditional things that we have looked at. Certainly our CRM Group and Jeff Jones and that
group have done a lot of very good work. We are able to mail now more efficiently.
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We have actually increased our business on less circulation. We are taking that circulation dollars
and putting it into other things, into new media, whether it is paid search. Paid search has been
very productive for us. Whether it is social media, which we have now a whole team working on. We
feel very good about that. And we are looking at adding television stronger to both Soma and
perhaps even a test with television in White House as we come forward.
So that is kind of how we are readjusting our marketing. It is a way from so much of the print that
we have done in the past, and really looking at new ways to market and to drive customers into our
stores. And I think that the results will really tell the story.
Go ahead, Jackie.
Sam Panella, Raymond James.
Good morning. Obviously, e-comm growth very strong. Can you give us any detail on the
performance by brand? And also, do you still think you can get to that level of 10% of total sales
at DTC in 2011? Thank you.
Well, we hit 10% level in the fourth quarter of last year of DTC. So we think that was
pretty good. Of course, it may have been a little bit indicative of if our stores were closed
and you couldnt get to the stores, then maybe they got a little extra lift from that. But I was
pleased to see us at that level.
I think that the 10% is an elusive target, because when we set the 10% goal, the Company wasnt
growing quite as well as it is now, and it keeps growing a little faster. Our goal is 10% of
front-line sales. I think that is not only achievable, but Id like to see us move towards 15% to
20%. So I think our DTC group is aware of that challenge and is gearing up to go after it.
Thank you, Sam. Next question, please, Jackie.
Kimberly Greenberger, Morgan Stanley.
Great, thank you. Good morning. I am wondering if you can talk about the drivers that could
potentially help you get to that $1.00 EPS stretch goal that you have got here in 2011. And as you
look out to 2013, you talked about $1.50 as your stretch goal. Obviously, that is not guidance. But
what would need to happen over the next three years to help you get to that $1.50 level? Thanks.
Over the next three years, all we have to do is to execute our stretch sales plan, and we will
get to the $1.50. And I think we have laid it out, we understand what we need to do. Our strategic
plan lays out the path to perform at those levels. As you remember, we said also early back in 2009
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that we believe that we could get back to an operating income certainly in the mid-teens, somewhere
anyways. I think Kent had said somewhere in the 15% to 17%.
So that certainly is our goal. And once we achieve our historical earnings in dollars, I would like
to go for the percent. Again, weve said structurally, even though we were in the 20%s earlier,
because of the way the stock compensation is treated and a few other things, we wont get back to
the 20%s. But we think certainly the mid-teens is a good goal for us.
I have always firmly believed one of the things that we do internally is we set stretch goals.
Because if you dont set stretch goals and if you dont strive to achieve them, believe me, you
never will. And if you dont lay out a path and if you dont know how you are going to deliver it,
you will never figure it out. So I think we have laid out the path. I think that we have laid out
the way that we are going to run our businesses and what we need to do to deliver a goal such as
that by 2013.
Coming back to 2011, obviously, I said from my comments that we should have had a few more points
in comp and probably a couple of cents in the second quarter and a couple of cents in the fourth
quarter. I would much rather be in the high 60s now than the mid 60s cents in terms of EPS. But if
you look at last years performance, it was up 64% over the previous year.
So all we have to do is increase 60% again this year and we are at $1.00 a share. Is it going to be
hard work and is it a stretch? You bet. But is it possible? As a matter of fact, our bonus is
certainly tied to that number.
Next question please, Jackie.
Lorraine Hutchinson, Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
Thank you, good morning. You ended the year with quite a sizable cash balance, I think $549
million. And you didnt really buy back any stock in the fourth quarter. I guess I was just hoping
that you could discuss a little bit your priorities for that cash and what would make you more
interested in buying back the stock here? Thank you.
Sure, great question. I will be totally honest. I think in hindsight, we probably wish we had
repurchased some more shares in the fourth quarter.
The follow-up question would be, well, what are you going to do going forward. If I knew how to
predict the stock price, I could tell you. But suffice to say, we will keep our eyes on it.
We have continued to maintain that if there was something out there opportunistically, we would
take advantage of it. But to go back to Daves earlier point about our strategic plan, we do not
need an acquisition to achieve our long-term profit targets.
The only other thing I can tell you is we are constantly reminded of what that cash number is,
especially at the low rate of returns, and we are very much concerned about driving shareholder
return and shareholder wealth. We increased our dividend, as we announced in the press release this
morning, and that is one other vehicle that we can certainly look at to reward our longer-term
shareholders.
Thank you.
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Paul Lejuez, Nomura Group.
Hey, guys. Paul Lejuez. You mentioned sales strength month-to-date in February. Just wondering
how gross margins have looked. Are sales being driven by full price selling?
And then just second, wondering to what extent your full-year guidance was influenced by the
February sales strength. Was that guidance established before or after you saw February results?
Thanks.
First is, it was not guidance. It is a goal. It is not guidance, I want to make that clear.
But it is a goal that is based upon strategic plans that were done in the year 2010, long before we
saw February results.
Next question please, Jackie.
Jennifer Black, Jennifer Black & Associates.
Let me add my congratulations to a great year, and to you, Kent.
Thanks.
I wondered, at Soma, can you talk about Sport Solutions? Is that a category you are going to
abandon or focus on?
And then also, on dresses, it looks like you are being more aggressive with your spring deliveries
and they look good. And then lastly, at Soma, I wondered how you are keeping your consistency in
fashion styles in size runs. It seems like in core sizes, you are selling out pretty quick. Thank
you.
Okay, first, when you talked about Sport Solutions. As I said, we have kind of struggled to
find a voice a little bit in apparel. We know that for frequency of shopping that we need to have a
good sleepwear and apparel business to help drive the overall top-line sales of the Soma. The
frequency for bras and panties alone is not like it is for apparel. As a matter of fact, its a
couple of times a year that women would shop for those categories. When you add in apparel, you
find that it goes up then to probably four or five times a year that they are shopping.
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So we need for those parts to be successful to keep traffic in our stores. Sport Solutions, we
tried loungewear Sport Solutions. Weve tried tops. We have done dresses. Of course, we will
continue to do sleepwear. Sport Solutions, we thought we had fantastic product. And it sold very,
very well in a few stores and not so well in other stores.
Dresses have sold well the knit dressing, I should say, has sold well in all stores. So I think
you will see us being a lot more enthusiastic and supportive of that classification than some
others. But we are going to continue to test, so there is going to be a lot of things that will go
on as we get through the next year or so.
Okay. And are you keeping and can you talk about the consistency of your fashion bras, how
you are keeping the stock?
Well, one of the things that we are doing is we are buying a lot more of them. Honestly, some
of the selling rates have surprised us, especially when we put the television behind them. It has
just surpassed our expectation.
And foundations is a little more difficult than most. The lead times in foundations can be six
months. So you want to do a reorder everything is fine, but give us six months. Now since then,
we have worked with some of our key suppliers, who have been very, very good partners with us. We
have backed up the trim elements. There could be 40 pieces to a bra, with elastic and lace and all
the other things, and the cups and the forms. And so we have backed up a lot of the components, and
we have been able to react faster than we ever have before.
But that said, we are also buying a heck of a lot more in quantity on those things that we have
gotten traction on. I think you will see a better flow of our key items over the next year than you
have in the past.
Great, thanks a lot.
Alex Fuhrman, Piper Jaffray.
Hey, thanks, guys. Wanted to touch base a little bit on this pooled inventory. I know you
mentioned that you have been consolidating your DTC and your store inventory. Is that just in terms
of internal accounting or is there actually a process change here in terms of the warehousing or
where it is moving?
And then I guess building on that, do you have the ability to satisfy DTC orders from stores when
youre sold out in a warehouse or when there is shortages in certain locations?
I will tell you the pooled inventory was really necessitated as a result of systems
implementation. But at the end of the day, we think it makes sense for the long-term, not just to
satisfy systems applications, but really getting the brand focused on total brands, so we no longer
experience the periods where the direct-to-consumer and the front-line business are fighting over
the same inventory.
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I mean, a sale that we can get today in direct-to-consumer is better than a sale that we might
get at the stores if we pushed the inventory out two weeks from today. So that is why we look at it
as one inventory. It is managed by the brands the same as the stores. Many of the brands look at it
and plan DTC as their largest store.
And I think that when you look at it that way, it is a very different way of controlling and using
your inventory. And this is a process change. A year ago, we had planners in direct-to-consumer and
we had inventory that was specific for direct-to-consumer.
All of this is also causing us to have great process change in our distribution centers, and we are
rethinking the way that we fill and refill our orders. As you guys know, we have a new warehouse
that we are beginning to put automation in, and that has been a big focus, on how we put that
automation in and how we use that second facility. And a lot of it has to do with how we react to
replenishment inventory in direct-to-consumer.
It has also forced us to rethink our initial flow to stores. So previously, on initial flow,
we would probably hold back 10% to 15% of the units in the distribution center and blow it out to
stores. Now, we are increasing that holdback number, and part of the propensity is that there is
unprecedented demand in DTC. We can shift that higher level of held-back units over into the DTC
channel.
Great. Thats helpful, guys. Thanks a lot and good luck.
Roxanne Meyer, UBS.
Great, thanks, and let me add my congratulations to Kent.
Thanks.
Just a follow-up on questions on gross margin. I know that you said you are still in the
middle of planning the back half. But knowing that you guided gross margins to be up slightly for
the year, I am just wondering what you are currently embedding as the headwinds as it relates to
sourcing in the back half, and how you are thinking about your net increase to AUR to at least
partially offset those costs.
And then separately, when you think about your dollar goals, the world was pretty different two
years ago, and obviously, these sourcing headwinds were the whole picture was much different. So
what was your original operating margin goal to get to the $1.00, and how you think about what
maybe margin you need right now to still potentially get to that $1.00.
Well, I think the $1.00 share, if we do the math, would be an operating margin goal probably
in the low teens, maybe in the 12% to 13% range. I think with your comment with respect to gross
margin, knowing that we are just now beginning to commit to some early September deliveries, it is
still a little bit of a crap shoot in trying to predict the fall margins.
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My sense is it is probably prudent, especially with all the noise that is out there, to perhaps
plan IMU flat to slightly down, and really take advantage of being less promotional and less
couponing in order to drive margin in the second half.
Thank you, Roxanne. Next question, please.
Liz Pierce, Roth Capital Partners.
Thanks. I will add my congratulations to everyone, especially to Kent. In terms of the
couponing, that is kind of what I was interested in hearing. Is your fiscal 2013 stretch goal,
Dave, does that really anticipate that you are going to start migrating away from the couponing?
And kind of attached to that, what should we think about in terms of circulation for this year?
Thanks.
I think that when you look at the couponing, it is the amount of couponing we do is
impressive, several hundred millions of dollars. So when you look at that and understand if we
could just change the offer slightly, those dollars would fall right to the bottom line.
And so we have been doing a lot of testing with how we can change I guess both the frequency of
couponing and the amount of the offer, and still get which scenario gives us the most profitable
sales. So that is what we are looking at. And I think that there is really big, big margin
implications to us doing that better and a breakthrough in that area. And I can tell you we have
had some pretty decent tests on that. So we will see how it goes through the year.
And there was a second part of that question too, wasnt there?
It was just on circulation for this year.
Circulation, well, circulation, we hope to have circulation down. As we have seen before, as I
have said, certainly with Chicos brand, we have been able to get increased sales on decreased
circulation.
Now when we decrease the circulation, it doesnt mean that we are saving those marketing dollars.
It means that we are adjusting the mix of our marketing dollars, putting more towards new media and
perhaps television and less towards print. So I think that, again, that is a very important piece.
We have been, I believe, overcirculating for quite some time, based on the results that we can
attribute to that circulation. And I think weve found breakthroughs in segments of our file where
we can circulate less frequently and get the same result.
Has the test been in all the brands that you have been doing?
Predominately in Chicos, but we have tested a little bit in White House|Black Market.
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Sorry, Liz. We need to move on. Next question, please, Jackie.
Michelle Tan, Goldman Sachs.
Great, thanks. I wanted to follow up a little bit on the gross margin question. I know it was
down also in third quarter with some less severe weather issues. And I was wondering if you could
help us think about how you guys get comfort with gross margin being up next year. What is dragging
it down currently as we look at second half 2010 that is going to change going forward?
Well, I think I may have indicated on the previous question that I think the IMU is planned,
depending upon which brand, either flat or down slightly in the second half. I think that there are
opportunities in terms of markdowns. I think we might have gotten a tad ahead of ourselves in terms
of inventory levels, especially going into both the third and the fourth quarter.
So to me, inventory levels are a lot easier to control than they have been in this business in the
past, and so I think that is one of the ways we get there.
But going back to what David referred to on the testing of the coupons, we have seen some
remarkable results so far, and so Im encouraged that there is some opportunity there as well.
Okay, great. Thanks. Good luck for the year.
Thank you, Michelle. And Jackie, I think we have time for one more questioner. It is almost
9.30 our time.
Richard Jaffe, Stifel Nicolaus.
Thanks very much, guys. Just a quick follow-up on retail prices. And it sounds like the
customer has been happy to pay up for the right product. Do you anticipate that trend improving
throughout your mix in the fall, and average unit retail increase, should we anticipate a 10%
increase or greater than that? How do you guys look at it?
Well, I think lets go back and look at it with the customer first. I think that all people
that are sourcing are experiencing similar increases, some more than others. Many people have
are more dependent on cotton than perhaps we are. Many people have already moved out of China a
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lot swifter than we were than we have. So maybe we are the last to do it, and we have a little
bit more offset, perhaps, than some of our competitors or others in the apparel market may have.
That said, everybody is going to have to be doing something with pricing or markdowns to maintain
their profit growth. It is a pressure that is affecting everybody. So we have some price elasticity
where we have done really market research and feel that we have been under the market in some
categories and have adjusted accordingly.
We have opportunities, again, in the promotional cadence to our business, where we think we have
been maybe more promotional than we need to be, based on the fashion and the desirability of the
products that we have been producing, certainly in Chicos, White House and in the fashion parts of
Soma.
So we believe there is opportunities. And where we think we can raise the price, weve raised the
price. And Kent, do you have anything ?
Just to give a little more color, I think it is dangerous to say anything in terms of blanket
increases of over X percent. But there is just a couple of facts I want to call out, the first of
which is White House. White House had an increase in unit average retail this year. It probably
wasnt as great as it has been in years past, primarily because of the mix of dresses was lower
than what it has historically been. But White House has been able to raise price pretty much for
the past seven years.
On the other hand, when you take a look at Chicos, if we were to get back to historic norms, there
is still an opportunity to raise price over 10%.
So the answer is yes. Thank you.
Thank you, Richard. First of all, we apologize to those questions we didnt get to today in
the hour or so that we were on the call. As always, I am available for any follow-ups necessary.
And thank you to Jackie for hosting the call.
Two calendar items. Chicos FAS is hosting our third Security Analyst Day on Tuesday, March 1 here
at our Fort Myers campus. Details on the webcast of that meeting are contained in todays earnings
release.
Also, sales and earnings for the first quarter of 2011 will be released Wednesday, May 18, 2011,
before the market opening that day. The tentative earnings release dates for the remaining quarters
of fiscal 2011 are available on our corporate website, ChicosFAS.com on the Event Calendar button,
as is a replay of this webcast.
Thank you all for joining us this morning. As always, we appreciate your continuing interest in
Chicos FAS. Jackie?
Thank you. This concludes todays teleconference. You may all disconnect your lines at this
time. Thank you all for your participation.
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