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Exhibit 99.3
DIODES 4Q10 EARNINGS CALL
QUESTION AND ANSWER
QUESTION AND ANSWER
Your first question is from the line of Ramesh Misra from Brigantine Advisors.
My first question was related to your logic product ramp. When does that become a meaningful
product portion of your revenues? And if you can provide some degree of the acceleration through
2011? That would be great.
We are pretty consistent on the path that we have been talking about. We are starting to see
reasonable revenues from that or measurable revenues from that in the second half of 2011.
The design activity is quite brisk, but the adoption takes a little bit of time. Most of this will
be done in new design wins and new sockets. It takes awhile for those to get into production. But
we feel pretty comfortable we are making good progress toward that goal.
When you start from zero business, even you double every quarter, it still takes a long time to be
significant to our revenue. But I believe, when you say you say 2015? I think he is.
Second half of 2011.
Second half 2011, it really wont be a major effect to our revenue growth.
Okay. Got it. In regards to the pricing environment, what are you seeing out there? Both at the end
of Q4, and what are you seeing fanning out for Q1 and if you are getting any greater visibility
then?
The price still fairly stable. You have seasonable slow-down and the price erosion, but typically
is offset by our cost reduction. You see we still get very high on our gross margin.
And in fourth quarter, move forward to 1Q. We dont really see a major ASP degradation. We still
see a normal season pattern, okay? And then you always try to offset by cost reduction. So we dont
see any special difference from the past.
Got it. In regards to the labor shortages, Dr. Lu, this is actually the first time I think you have
ever brought this up.
Are there any abnormal drivers for that? Or was it is it mostly related to the, to the New Year
holidays? And do you expect the labor issues to be resolved by Q2?
Okay, number one, to answer you, the problem should be resolved by Q2, yes. But the reason they are
unusual than before, is China just announced this fifth so-called five-year plan. Chinas
government always, every five years, they have this so-called five-year plan. They just announced
the 12th, five-year plan.
And this five-year plan start to put a lot of emphasis in the inland economic or inland situation
than the cost. So China want to push the development in the inland faster than the cost, such that
their economics is much balanced than before.
And in the before, China put a lot of emphasis in the cost, such that the cost begins to go way up
and then cause this inflation and this inflation caused a lot of embarrass between the richer and
poorer.
So the government tried to stabilize the situation, and tried to push the development in the inland
of China and therefore, you know, you get more emphasis, more money, developed in the inland area.
And that cause the labor, instead of go to coast, to take a job. The labors start to go back and
dont come back. Okay?
In addition to that is the weather and the transportation problem. People go home for Chinese New
Year sooner than before. And that is what happened to us. So all those things caused the labor
shortage. But we are addressing that and we believe in the second quarter actually, we start
hiring more people. But dont forget, it take us six, eight week of training before they can be
productive.
Right. Just very quickly, I guess all this kind of pushes you towards your ramping up your Chengdu
facility.
You are right.
When does Chengdu ramp up? Whats the time line for production to become meaningful at Chengdu?
We, from the long term, we just need to buy the land from the government, build the building, and
then start to go to the go to ramp up the production.
But temporarily, what we do is we lease a facility and that facility we just finish the layout and
then we are going to start to install the equipment and then start to ramp.
But it will be not a high volume, until we have our own then purchased, build our own building.
So Im looking at, for the long-term biggest growth, will be probably one year to 18 months. But we
are ramping up our leased facility to get people trained, to get engineering, the crew did.
So we do have so-called initial production, and supposed to be equipment to come in after Chinese
New Years. So there is total equipment now, and probably one quarter from today, we can start to do
some limited production.
Okay, thanks very much. And congratulations.
Your next question is from the line of Steve Smigie with Raymond James.
Great, thank you. And congratulations on the nice result, the nice guidance.
Something to talk a little bit about CapEx strategy for this year. You guys accelerated the capital
spending last year and I think that resulted in some pretty significant share gains.
Sounds like you are going back to your more normal CapEx plans. How does that fit in with
continuing to capture market share? Could you maybe reaccelerate it later or is this going to be
plenty of capital added, at this point?
If you look at our CHEI in the past, eight to ten years, we are running with our CHEIs, about 20-
something percent. 23%, 25%. If we want to keep in that kind of rate we 10% to 12% would be
okay. Okay?
And the reason, last year we spend 14% is we actually underspending in 2009 and in 2010 we grow
41%. That to support that 41%, you really need to increase and thats what happens.
But move forward. I think we will be keeping to our business model, which is 14%.
12%.
No, 12% . 10% to 12%. Now, we would start to consider Chengdu and see how aggressively we want to
grow up Chengdu. Okay? And that, if we grow up like our regular, then 10% to 12% can cover that.
But at the beginning, we might need a little bit higher to cover the Chengdu start.
Okay, great. And then I guess, just similarly, you guys have done a couple of very successful
acquisitions, Zetex and actually, more than a couple. Several successful acquisitions really
ramped up your growth. Gives you some good cross-selling opportunities. Been a little while since
the last major one.
Does it make sense to start looking at another one here?
Yes, it always makes sense to do the M&A. The only problem is, in several pockets, I want to buy
them they think my offer is too low. If I can get to some kind of agreement, we will have some
M&A activity.
But at this moment, I do not have the one I can talking about yet. Always my responsibility and is
always in my consideration and always watch out for that opportunity.
Okay. Last question is just with regard to gross margin. Sounds like you are getting some of the
labor issues fixed up. I know your models are only 35% right now.
Seems like maybe pricing is a little bit more favorable than usual. As we start to look back at
June, is it likely as it gets into June, September, that that gross margin trends more back
toward that 38%? Or is that going to be too aggressive?
Well, it would probably be too aggressive. You know, our strategy always, if I can grow, then I
choose to grow, instead of limit the growth and that is why I improved the gross margin.
What I really looking is in GPM dollar. I think you know that. That really as long as give me the
base of GPM dollar, I dont care it coming from revenue or coming from GPM percent.
The reason we take the opportunity is due to, we do not have enough equipment capacity, even we
grow we put 14% of CapEx in there, we still kind of capacity limited, equipment capacity
limited.
And because of that, you take the opportunity, since you cannot produce more units, then you might
take opportunity by changing the product mix and get GPM percent higher to get more GPM dollars.
Now, if I get the capacity, install it fast enough such that I can get in the market share and
revenue instead of just growth rates and GPM percent. So our strategy always GPM dollar is what Im
focus on.
Right.
So when you play with the model, you can either play in revenue, but really target GPM dollar.
Right. Makes sense. Okay, thank you.
Your next question is from the line of John Vinh with Collins Stewart.
Thanks for taking my question. Just a follow-up question on the shortages. Obviously in your
prepared commentaries you talked about demand being better than seasonal.
Obviously your CapEx capacity continues to expand in Q1. If you didnt have the shortages, sounds
like revenues could have been up in Q1.
Is there any way you guys could quantify what the demand trends look like in Q1 in terms of either
backlog or backlog coverage?
I dont know if we suppose we can do that or not. The two guys here, they are shaking heads. I
cannot really talking about that. So probably we cannot talk about it.
But our market is better than traditional, because, typically, in our 1Q, you should be down 5% to
10% and I think your model, John, you show that too, right?
And even today, we show 0% to minus 5%. We still better than the seasonal down. But its a lot of
some of the reason was really due to market manpower shortage.
I got it. Then my follow-up is, obviously on the labor shortage. I mean, this time of year, you
guys typically see quite a bit of turnover in China.
Does your Chengdu facility give you some advantages in terms of a do you think you get a lower
turnover rate in Chengdu versus Shanghai? And also on wages, can you give us a sense is there a
wage differential? Do you get a cost benefit from shifting a little bit more capacity to Chengdu
versus Shanghai?
Im glad to answer that. Before I forget, dont forget our fourth quarter, when typically is 0% to
5% down, our fourth quarter is actually flat. So that is why we believe our we continue gaining
the market share. Okay? So that just finish what Im talking about.
Talking about Chengdu, sure, Chengdu the labor costs going to be always lower than Shanghai
area. Because where our facilities is in Shanghai and Shanghai is most expensive from labor costs
point of view.
So Chengdu going to be reduced, our costs. And from stability point of view, yes, again, Chengdu is
a big inland city and they control a lot of working around Sichuan province and to working in
there.
Chengdu going to be much easier to recruit the people than the Shanghai. Because, Shanghai, most
labor you are counting on the labor coming from inland, working in the Shanghai area. So if they
dont come back, or they stay in their hometown, then we in trouble.
Great. Thank you. And my last question is, Mark, you talked a lot about this call on a new LED
driver products. Can you clarify? I think you mentioned TVs.
Do you guys have a product that supports the LED drivers for TVs? You have design wins at this
point in time?
Are you talking about LED, TV?
Yes.
We have some drivers in small panel, okay? Nothing in large panel. And so, we focused in small
panel, presently, in general illumination LED drivers and we released our first AC DC recently. I
cant frankly remember if that was in December or in January. So, our 9910. We continue to expand
and we consider that a very exciting opportunity for us, and a true growth driver going forward. So
were moving in a lot of different directions, in that product space.
Actually, this is two different strategy. For the larger TV, that is really backlighting strategy
and for the one AC to DC, that is more in general a lighting driver strategy. They are completely
different product family. Product strategy. John Vinh Collins Stewart Analyst: Great. Thank
you.
Your next question is from the line of Shawn Harrison with Longbow Research.
Good evening, everyone, and congratulations.
Thank you, Shawn.
First question, just wanted to follow up more on the cost side of the capacity expansion in
Chengdu. As you start to, I guess, do some of the initial production potentially in the June
quarter and the back half of the year, is there going to be a step up in cost ahead of revenues
that maybe we should model some margin degradation as you bring that facility online?
Dont forget, that facility start with very small quantities. So I think it probably dont need
to.
I think we have some in our startup costs in the first quarter.
In the first quarter we do, because we are putting the facility together, were hiring people,
finance people, planning people. We have hired some direct labor operators for training. So we are
going to have expenses at least in the first quarter that arent covered by any revenue.
And then other than that, the GPM should not be really affect that much.
Got you. In the first quarter, is it half a million dollars? Is it less than that? Just trying to
get an idea.
It was probably in that neighborhood.
Okay. The second question I have is on North America, with, I guess, the adjustment that took place
in the fourth quarter, particularly it sounds like in distribution.
Do you think everything is normalized now going into 2011? Or is there any chance of further
normalization here during the first quarter?
Yes, I think we are in pretty good shape. As I mentioned the inventory is pretty healthy. Actually
it went through last year very, very clean. They just kind of got ahead of themselves a little bit
in the third quarter.
And actually, we wanted that to happen, because we wanted it to be our stock in place instead of
other peoples stock in place, when they started canceling orders.
So we got our stock in there, and we are its allowed us to maintain our POS run rate. And I
think we are well positioned to grow our POS from our position today in first quarter and beyond.
I think we are in pretty good shape. I think the POP is still a little choppy, on the Distys. They
dont really know. They do have a good inventory position across all their lines.
Theyre trying to decide whether they are going to be flat or theyre going to be down 5% in the
first quarter or if theyre going to be up 20% for the year.
So I think that there is still a little there is still a little hesitancy to reach out with
great POP orders. But I think our inventory in first quarter will go down in the channel. But I
think, all in all, it should just level into a good position.
I guess the other side of that may be Europe, where you saw very strong in demand. Is that
continuing into the March quarter? And also it looks like in the fourth quarter you did see a
little bit of inventory build. But seems like the end markets in Europe are still very much your
friend.
Yes, the inventory build in Europe was very late, okay? And the market is going on probably the
strongest of all the markets we deal with.
So we were really a little bit surprised by the POP, by the strength of the POP, in December.
Because European distributors have a tendency to turn off around the 10th and they were
aggressively trying to get product in. And first quarter looks pretty solid so far, with POS. So I
think that market is holding up better than we actually expected it going into the year.
Okay. Thank you very much.
Your next question is from the line of Gary Mobley with Benchmark.
Hi, guys. I have a question for Rick to start out with. The R&D in the quarter was low, compared to
your recent run rate. And Im assuming its going to stay low in the first quarter.
So Im just hoping you can provide a better understanding, of whats going on there, on the R&D
front?
Yes. In R&D, it was basically a compensation reserve adjustment that we made between the third and
fourth quarter.
So we made some accruals in the third quarter, and we ultimately didnt spend that much money in
the fourth quarter.
So we the difference was about that amount. But you wont see that going forward, because those
are well get back to the more normal 2011 status.
Normal, in the first quarter you mean?
Yes. Normal means basically accruing. And not reversing accruals.
Got you. Okay. And with the debt being redeemable in October, youll exit the year with what?
Roughly $275 million in net cash? Should we think about all of that being available for
acquisition? Or how much do you need for working capital requirements? And, as well, how much is
offshore?
Well, we dont break down where the money is. I will say, that its not all in the US, and well
need to have some money in the US, to pay off those convertible notes. But weve brought money back
in the past, and well do it again if we need to.
We will have to have some money for working capital. Were investing in Chengdu and were going to
continue to invest in CapEx and grow the output capacity. So you can say we need maybe $100
million, somewhere around that, for working capital to work with. And, other, on top of that, the
rest of it is available, assuming that Keh-Shew doesnt do some M&A activity with it.
You have asked me how much money that available for M&A. You can take that $270 million, and minus
$130 million for the convertible bond, and then say $100 million for working capital. Then we dont
have that much money there for M&A. So if I look at some sizable M&A, then I may need to do
something.
Okay. I know you wont give me wont be able to give me a precise number on this question. But
for the 190 basis points sequential decline in gross margin for the first quarter, how much of that
is attributable to lower fixed-cost coverage?
How much is attributable to chasing lower margin revenue? And then, how much is attributable to pay
increase?
Okay. Number one, we cannot really break down that clearly. But number one, we do not have anything
tracing for the lower margin, okay?
Like I say, we do not even have enough people to get the revenue we want to. We will not produce
any product which produce much lower margins. So we I dont have anything contribute into the
lower margin product revenue.
Okay.
And if you can look at it, our utilization actually went down to about almost 90%. Utilization,
equipment utilization went
No, 13%. Because were
13%, yes.
In the past it went up 4%.
Ill put down 9%. Utilization go to 13%.
And those kind of utilization, when you go down 13%, you are going to hurt quite a bit, right? And
another thing for us, 2% GPM, you are only talking about $3 million, $4 million, okay?
So that is why the GPM percent changes so much is because our revenue base is not big, so when you
go down just $3 million, $4 million, you affect 2%.
All right, great. Thanks guys.
Your next question is from the line of Harsh Kumar with Morgan Keegan.
Hey, Dr. Lu and Mark. Congratulations. Very good guidance in the quarter. Maybe, Mark, you can help
me on this. Usually March is always a tough, interesting quarter. Im curious about your color, as
you see your markets for the four or five different end markets that you are in.
Which you think will be strong, which you think will be weak, which you think will be normal or
abnormal?
Thats a big every quarter is a challenge. (Laughter)March is no exception to anything.
Actually, again I think I mentioned in my speech, that we just kind of see a healthy business
environment. I think we look we are seeing in improvements in areas, going into the year, that
have been soft for a period of time. We are starting to see some good action on LED, and LCD TVs
coming out of Asia. I think there is some improvement there. I think some notebooks look strong.
Notebooks actually run into some problems, because Intel have put a stop, because they are you
know their issue on that, okay? But fortunately, it is a type of the its one offset and is not
affect by Intels stop shipment. Oh, no not stop shipment, Intels problem.
So therefore, if you put the notebook and the tablets together, for us, actually, like you say,
its up.
So consumer portables look pretty solid, as well as Smartphone. I think the automotive environment
is quite healthy in European market and I think the industrial market continues to move forward.
So I think that when you come through the periods that have gone through, that weve gone through
over the last couple of years, to be looking around the corner in the first quarter, and see a
positive outlook and a healthy environment, I think is good enough for me.
Im not so worried about the first quarter. I kind of worry about the next three quarters after the
first quarter. Were kind of already there.
So I just think its generally a healthy environment. We generally, in the long run, dont take
if the market grows, in mid to low single digits, then generally, we can perform pretty well as a
company.
I guess, yes no, thats really helpful, Mark. Maybe I can rephrase the question a little bit
differently.
Are there any areas you think will be up sequentially in the March quarter? And what would those
be?
Id say the consumer portables and tablets.
Yes.
Thats pretty healthy. And then a competitive-type question. A couple of the other companies have
talked about issues in the industrial market, basically talking a lot of inventory. Im not
suggesting that you have that issue.
Your revenues were down slightly. Have you seen that issue? And if so, just maybe talk about it
inventory in the industrial markets specifically as you see it for Diodes?
In the industrial areas, Im not seeing a great inventory problem. In the power supply market and
the areas we play in, adapters and so forth, we are starting to see reasonably good demand.
Maybe it matches the end equipment that we play in, from the consumer portables area and so forth.
So I cant quote to that issue.
Got it, very helpful. Thanks, guys, and congratulations.
Thank you.
Your next question is from the line of Vijay Rakesh with Stern Agee.
I was just looking at the you mentioned 2011 was a pretty healthy environment. But when you look
at this year, what do you think would be your key drivers? Where do you see growing upside among
your markets? And also on the M&A side, what it is you are looking to fill on your portfolio? Where
do you see some areas that are lacking there?
Well, when you are talking about our upside, you are talking about 1Q?
No, for the year. For the year.
Oh, for the year? I think we, actually, we are going to grow in almost everywhere. Okay? Our MOSFET
has come out very, very strong. Our transistor and our analog so I cannot really tell you one area,
because we are, in the 2010, we have been gaining market share everywhere. We grow 41%. Obviously
we gain the market share. We just dont see anything that would slow us down, because by look at
our design win activity, by look at our new products, we believe we will have another gaining
market share year.
I dont really just in one area. We are able to take advantage of our product portfolio, our
region, and move around the products such that whenever the area give us best GPM dollar, we move.
Okay?
Okay.
What is your next other question?
On the M&A side, what portfolio are you looking to fill? Already see you need to fill some
products.
When I look at M&A, I have different regions, different opportunities. So I dont have anything,
say, Im going to buy something because I need to get into this product area. In the past I always
say depend on where the opportunity. Then I look at what kind of synergy they can give to us. And
as long as the synergy is good, and we can acquire this right away or within the twelve months and
give me the good addition in something, then we will do it. So I happily say my M&As target at
which area of the product family, I dont have that in my mind.
And lastly, just a housekeeping question, the tax rate, is it still 20% for the year?
Yes, I think we give the taxes
Yes, 17% to 23% in the first quarter.
And for the year, about the same?
Approximately the same. We dont give guidance on the year. But you can look at 2010. It was about
20%.
Right.
Okay. Great. Thanks a lot, guys.
Your next question is from the line of Brian Piccioni with BMO Capital Markets.
Of course, congratulations on a very strong year and a great outlook. Of course, most of my
questions have already been asked and answered.
In prior calls, we talked about your efforts to reduce costs through things like replacement of
gold bonding with copper bonding and package reduction, size reductions, and stuff like that.
Now we are talking about labor cost savings by shifting around. I was wondering if there were any
other things that you were targeting to sort of sustain your ability to maintain good profit
margins despite fairly significant pricing pressures in the market.
Well, number one, the goal convert to copper, copper wire conversion, gold is the highest cost
today we have seen in our manufacturing. So we are not there yet.
We still have a long way to continue reduce our gold cost. Our gold wire cost. So we going to
continue our cost reduction effort in the gold wire elimination and convert to copper wire.
Then another area we are doing cost reduction is by when we grow up the revenue, our wafer usage
will continue increase. And so we will
have if this support from internally, then well continue
able to reduce our wafer cost, because the volume or because the usage.
But at the same time now we are in a much better position to negotiate to get a low cost price of
the wafer from our factory business.
Therefore, we just continue our effort of cost reduction, and I dont see anything will be slow
down or say slow it down. We are no longer able to do any cost reduction. Thats not the case.
We continue going to be able to knock that cost down, and to offset that labor cost at the same
time, to offset ASP.
Another way we can reduce ASP effect infection actually impact is by changing the product mix
aggressively, driving the new product. And you can see in the 2010, we have so many new product
coming out, and obviously, the new product will give us a better GPM. And then to depress or reduce
the effect by ASP reduction. So come on with a new product.
Come on with the wafer cost reduction, gold wire reduction. And we have so many things going on to
reduce the cost the offset the ASP degradation and offset the labor shortage or labor cost
increase.
In other words, you are not running at a runway here. You can see clear to keeping ahead of that
curve then. Thats great.
Now, you had a question earlier about cash usage and everything else. Ill just come out and ask
directly. Has there been a decision made with respect to how you deal with the convertible debt?
Whether you simply pay it off? Or refinance it?
No decision made yet. Because it is still eight, nine months away from us. We just, number one, we
get our money ready. So we do have our money ready so if we need to pay off, we pay it off. That is
not an issue to us anymore. So just look at if I have an M&A target coming up, I need to do
something to raise more money, then well do it. But if no target coming up, we have enough cash to
pay for the convertible bond.
Great. Okay. Thats my questions. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Your next question is from the line of Suji De Silva with Thinkequity.
First of all, can you remind us what the 2Q seasonality is and if the constraints in the first
quarter, as they come off, provide a tail wind for the second quarter?
Second quarter seasonality. How does that compare to where we are in the first quarter?
I think we are now we believe now we back to the normal cycles semiconduct cycles.
I think you just look at how, historically, second quarter versus first quarter in the
semiconductor cycle, then you can look at the estimation over there.
Okay. In line with semis typical seasonal events. Whats your target inventory level versus
accrual level here? Just curious where you like to keep inventory for Diodes?
Am I back on?
Im sorry? Can you hear me?
Somebody is speaking in the background.
Oh, sorry about that. Can you tell me where your target inventory levels are typically, versus
where you are?
Yes, we are somewhere in the 90 to 100 days. If you look at where weve been historically, thats
about where we are now.
Okay.
And we built up inventory for certain people. And if we increase our assembly test capacity, we
have to increase raw materials and whip, so it will continue to go up, as we continue to grow.
Okay. And then last question, it sounds like to a prior question you said ASPs are relatively
stable. Do you still expect them to decline year-over- year, on a 3% to 7% basis, or do you expect
them to stay stable going forward?
I think we are going to have some ASP declines. We are going to have some pricing pressure. I dont
think its been clear clarified yet what those are going to be. But pricing pressure is
something that we I have been here for 20 years and we go through the same pricing pressure
pretty much.
There are some periods that are a little stronger than others. But in our product lines theres
always going to be pricing pressure.
Yes. All we need to do is put the pressure on the cost reduction and hoping the cost reduction can
offset the ASP degradation and perhaps changing the product mix by doing the new quarter. We kind
of know how to doing it, we just need to continue our effort to doing the same thing.
Great, thanks guys.
Okay.
Next question here is from the line of Steven Chin with UBS.
Great, thank you for squeezing me in here at the end. I want to ask about capacity, first or in
general for the industry.
Just given some of the supply tightness at your competitors late last year and also given that, I
think, in general, supply is still tight for a number of different types of products, what is your
expectation for overall industry supply growth this year for both Discrete as well as Analog
products that you play in currently?
I would say on the Analog side and the products we played last year, we didnt see a significant
amount of shortage. We thought it was a really more normalized cycle in the commodity standard
linear product area.
From a Discrete side, we think the shortage has eased off in Q4 based on most of our competitors
and most of the industry being down in that period.
But we do see some shortage opportunities going into this year. And I think that its possible that
Discrete packaging stays relatively tight through the first half of the year.
Maybe a little bit of room in Q1 and I think maybe getting a little tighter. And I think in Q3,
there is a possibility that it could be relatively tight again. Especially in certain product
lines.
Especially you dont really see that many people putting the capacity for the commodity product or
for the standard product.
Everybody putting the capacity for the newer more complicated device. So when you go to Discrete or
even standard Analog, you just dont see that many people putting the CapEx in the packaging area
that aggressively.
We probably the only few other companies aggressively putting capacity, 14% CapEx to address this
market.
Okay. Got it. And then the other question I had was just in terms of products that you sell into
either both the handset market, as well as into consumer portables, can you talk about any
opportunities for increased product content in the semiconductor dollar content from the portfolio?
Or maybe the ability to upsell higher margin products into some of those pockets that may be
drivers for those two target areas this year?
I dont think I can get too specific. But I can tell you that our content is growing for our
products and those product areas are growing every day. We have had a lot of expansion in our
MOSFET product lines that are specifically targeted in those areas.
A lot of stuff in our bipolar arena, some it is very consistent with our miniaturization
strategy and so forth.
I think that you can look at all of our key end equipment that were continuing try to add content
in order to expand. That is a key part of our goal to sell more products to the same customers.
And, Mark, just a follow-up there, is it more Discrete content specifically or is it a combination
Discrete and Analog content?
I think its a content of both and then throw in logic. Single-gate logic solves all problems in
design. So we think the positioning of our logic product is very much in line with what we are
trying to accomplish in those end equipments with our Discrete and our Analog thing. Clearly, we
can move much faster in Discrete, because the design time for a new product is much shorter. But
theres still opportunities for both.
Okay. If I could squeeze one more in, just one last question on industrial market and perhaps
Europe specifically.
In terms of the drivers of the industrial business, any thoughts as to how much longer that healthy
demand will continue? And whats underpinning it? I know its very broad-based. Is there potential
for any positives?
I think thats hard for me to say. The one thing I can say is that our product addressing that
marketplace continues to grow every day. We are getting more and more products that were that
were going to make available to that marketplace with our SBR product line, as well as our
DIODESTAR product line and our MOSFET product line.
A lot of the new product that were coming out with are very, very focused into those particular
marketplace. We have got a lot of new solar parts in both in our SBR line and so on. I think
maybe the industrial markets not as good as we say it is, but we just have more product to sell to
it.
Especially after the Zetex acquisition. We are gaining to the industrial and automotive
application, by expand Zetex product. It is really a good opportunity for us.
Okay. Perfect. Thanks. And congratulations on solid results again.
Thank you.
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